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Either way you're in!

Will be keen to know how it performs, i'm thinking of upgrading my D6200 which is currently linked to an HG612 to access VDSL

[GigabitEthernet]

Good to see NETGEAR gave gone back to the old telnet method rather than that weird cmd thing they had for a while

[PhilipD]

[michty_me]

So not too impressive then. Pity they cheaped out on everything. I was hoping for something better. I think I'll take delivery of it and give it a test. See how it goes.

[GigabitEthernet]

Sounds like typical NETGEAR I'm afraid

[michty_me]

I know their GUI is rather on the lacking side. I could see that from the D6400.

[PhilipD]

[PhilipD]

Sounds like typical NETGEAR I'm afraid

Yes it seems they've not improved much over the years.

[mjgr33n]

Got mine this morning, so far so good, just as stable and fast on the VDSL side as the Netgear D6400 but with much faster boot up, web ui load up and the most awesome improvement is that when you apply 99% of settings it does not reboot the router, yay )))))

Also get better speed tests than the D6400 which I think is just down to the improved processor speeds, basically it can handle all the [COLOR="Yellow"]*[/COLOR][COLOR="Yellow"]*[/COLOR][COLOR="Yellow"]*[/COLOR][COLOR="Yellow"]*[/COLOR] you throw at it.

Wireless speeds are amazing, tested it using my laptop with Intel Wireless-AC 7260 which is only 2 internal antennas and trying to download a 27GB movie form my Media Server from a room on a different floor and the other side of the house though 2 walls and a ceiling I was getting around 40 to 50MB/s so peaking around 400Mbit from a distance, tests to speedtest.net only added on around 2ms from LAN connection is this scenario also and download and upload where at max i.e. 74.99/18.76 etc so no loss there either.

So basically finally have a device that has all the speeds of the ASUS DSL-AC68U but with the Stability of the Netgear D6400, obviously not quite a customisable as the ASUS but certainly slightly more than the D6400.

If anybody wants any other stats let me know etc.

But my conclusion is it is worth it for me at lest it does what I want it to and I think form everything michty_me has said this will probably the router for him )))

There is now a diagnostics page which is nice here is ping result form google.com IP.

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PING 31.55.184.248 (31.55.184.248): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 31.55.184.248: seq=0 ttl=61 time=8.275 ms
64 bytes from 31.55.184.248: seq=1 ttl=61 time=8.703 ms
64 bytes from 31.55.184.248: seq=2 ttl=61 time=8.155 ms
64 bytes from 31.55.184.248: seq=3 ttl=61 time=8.198 ms

--- 31.55.184.248 ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 4 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 8.155/8.332/8.703 ms
Stats -

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Stats recorded 18 Jul 2015 13:36:03

DSLAM/MSAN type:        BDCM:0xa48c / v0xa48c
Modem/router firmware:  AnnexA version - A2pvbH042b.d26b
DSL mode:                VDSL2 Profile 17a
Status:                  Showtime
Uptime:                 
Resyncs:                0 (since 18 Jul 2015 13:24:02)

Downstream Upstream
Line attenuation (dB):  9.3 0.0
Signal attenuation (dB): Not monitored
Connection speed (kbps): 79999 19999
SNR margin (dB):        9.6 15.3
Power (dBm):            12.8 -5.0
Interleave depth:        16 1
INP:                    48.00 0
G.INP:                  Enabled

RSCorr/RS (%):          0.0000 0.0011
RSUnCorr/RS (%):        0.0000 0.0000
ES/hour:                0 12.8

Telnet Data -

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adslctl info --stats
adslctl: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Last Retrain Reason:    0
Last initialization procedure status:   0
Max:    Upstream rate = 26113 Kbps, Downstream rate = 96469 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 19999 Kbps, Downstream rate = 79999 Kbps
Bearer: 1, Upstream rate = 0 Kbps, Downstream rate = 0 Kbps
Link Power State:       L0
Mode:                   VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile:          Profile 17a
TPS-TC:                 PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis:                U:ON /D:ON
Line Status:            No Defect
Training Status:        Showtime
                Down            Up
SNR (dB):        9.6             15.3
Attn(dB):        9.3             0.0
Pwr(dBm):        12.8           -5.0

                        VDSL2 framing
                        Bearer 0
MSGc:           -6              26
B:              130             237
M:              1               1
T:              0               42
R:              8               16
S:              0.0518          0.3781
L:              21468           5374
D:              16              1
I:              139             127
N:              139             254
Q:              16              0
V:              14              0
RxQueue:                60              0
TxQueue:                20              0
G.INP Framing:          18              0
G.INP lookback:         20              0
RRC bits:               0               24
                        Bearer 1
MSGc:           186             -6
B:              0               0
M:              2               0
T:              2               0
R:              16              0
S:              5.3333          0.0000
L:              48              0
D:              3               0
I:              32              0
N:              32              0
Q:              0               0
V:              0               0
RxQueue:                0               0
TxQueue:                0               0
G.INP Framing:          0               0
G.INP lookback:         0               0
RRC bits:               0               0

                        Counters
                        Bearer 0
OHF:            0               360581
OHFErr:         0               7
RS:             109999232               2252829
RSCorr:         2               25
RSUnCorr:       0               0
                        Bearer 1
OHF:            89089           0
OHFErr:         0               0
RS:             1068327         0
RSCorr:         0               0
RSUnCorr:       0               0

                        Retransmit Counters
rtx_tx:         356             0
rtx_c:          0               0
rtx_uc:         0               0

                        G.INP Counters
LEFTRS:         0               0
minEFTR:        79982           0
errFreeBits:    1746029         0

                        Bearer 0
HEC:            0               0
OCD:            0               0
LCD:            0               0
Total Cells:    220152157               0
Data Cells:     4017457         0
Drop Cells:     0
Bit Errors:     0               0

                        Bearer 1
HEC:            0               0
OCD:            0               0
LCD:            0               0
Total Cells:    0               0
Data Cells:     0               0
Drop Cells:     0
Bit Errors:     0               0

ES:             0               6
SES:            0               0
UAS:            35              35
AS:             1431

                        Bearer 0
INP:            48.00           0.00
INPRein:        0.00            0.00
delay:          0               0
PER:            0.00            3.98
OR:             0.01            64.22
AgR:            80614.82        20063.54

                        Bearer 1
INP:            4.00            0.00
INPRein:        4.00            0.00
delay:          3               0
PER:            16.06           0.01
OR:             95.62           0.01
AgR:            95.62   0.01

Bitswap:        11/11           1/1

Total time = 24 min 26 sec
FEC:            2               25
CRC:            0               7
ES:             0               6
SES:            0               0
UAS:            35              35
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Retr:           0
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CRC:            0               4
ES:             0               3
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Retr:           0
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CRC:            0               3
ES:             0               3
SES:            0               0
UAS:            35              35
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Retr:           N/A
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FEC:            2               25
CRC:            0               7
ES:             0               6
SES:            0               0
UAS:            35              35
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
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CRC:            0               0
ES:             0               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
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[PhilipD]

Hi

Got mine this morning, so far so good, just as stable and fast on the VDSL side as the Netgear D6400 but with much faster boot up, web ui load up and the most awesome improvement is that when you apply 99% of settings it does not reboot the router, yay )))))

Also get better speed tests than the D6400 which I think is just down to the improved processor speeds, basically it can handle all the [COLOR="Yellow"]*[/COLOR][COLOR="Yellow"]*[/COLOR][COLOR="Yellow"]*[/COLOR][COLOR="Yellow"]*[/COLOR] you throw at it.

Glad it is working out for you.  Surprised you get better speed test results as mine were exactly the same compared to the HG612 which went via a Billion 7800 router, ZyXEL 8924 and now the D7000, and speed tests couldn't be any faster anyway given the 80/20 sync, so it sounds like the D6400 was particularly a bad performer then? 

I agree about the boot times though, much quicker, and nothing seemed to want a reboot, just wish it was a bit more of a router than an all-in-one plug in and go affair as I may be in a small minority, but I do tend to use some of the more fringe settings

Regards

Phil

[mjgr33n]

Hi

Got mine this morning, so far so good, just as stable and fast on the VDSL side as the Netgear D6400 but with much faster boot up, web ui load up and the most awesome improvement is that when you apply 99% of settings it does not reboot the router, yay )))))

Also get better speed tests than the D6400 which I think is just down to the improved processor speeds, basically it can handle all the [COLOR="Yellow"]*[/COLOR][COLOR="Yellow"]*[/COLOR][COLOR="Yellow"]*[/COLOR][COLOR="Yellow"]*[/COLOR] you throw at it.

Glad it is working out for you.  Surprised you get better speed test results as mine were exactly the same compared to the HG612 which went via a Billion 7800 router, ZyXEL 8924 and now the D7000, and speed tests couldn't be any faster anyway given the 80/20 sync, so it sounds like the D6400 was particularly a bad performer then? 

I agree about the boot times though, much quicker, and nothing seemed to want a reboot, just wish it was a bit more of a router than an all-in-one plug in and go affair as I may be in a small minority, but I do tend to use some of the more fringe settings

Regards

Phil

No the D6400 was very good, download and upload where fine if only one was being tested, it just lost chunk of speed when using both and all the stuff that my networking required, did not happen on the ASUS but then the ASUS had some weird other issues.

I have a server at home that does most things I need anyway.

What is it that you need out of the D7000 which is not there?

[PhilipD]

Hi

Things I've used on the ZyXEL which don't appear on the D7000:

VLAN and Interface grouping, really handy for offering a mobile friendly guest network, all possible on the Billion and ZyXEL, but not the D7000.  They did add this to the R7000 after some time so it may arrive.

Have DHCP assign one internal DNS address and the backup as my ISP, this is so I can access from the LAN websites easily using their external host names from an internal DNS server.  No problem on a Billion or ZyXEL router, but can't do this on the Netgear.  Easy enough to work around by entering manual DNS servers on network settings on the PC, but it would be easier to have this assigned automatically.

Wake on LAN, that has saved me quite a few times and means I can log in remotely to my home PC without having to leave it on 'just in case' and ensure I remember to do so.  This feature I've seen on D-Link/Billion and of course the ZyXEL.

No option I could see to convert the unused WAN Ethernet port to a LAN port to have 5 LAN ports, the ZyXEL can do this.

Extend the Wi-Fi beacon interval, this helps reduce battery drain on mobile devices, again Billion and the ZyXEL routers expose this setting. There are lots of settings missing on the D7000 relating to Wi-Fi that all other routers usually expose.

Nice to have the option to plug in a 3G dongle, again Billion and the ZyXEL allow this, considering this is suppose to be a flag ship DSL router from Netgear, you'd think 3G dongles would be supported, it has the horse power to run the drivers. To be fair it isn't advertised with this feature, although I kind of thought it would be given.

Being able to view the VDSL line stats from within the Web GUI, as well as being able to see uptime, NAT session usage and CPU load, I couldn't see anywhere on the Netgear where this information is shown, yet all available on the ZyXEL.

There are loads of settings and statistics available on other routers that Netgear have not included on the D7000, yes the majority people will never need to delve into advanced settings, but some of us do from time to time, and given the price and power of the CPU, you'd think they'd make the effort to provide access to more of the router options to appeal to the biggest audience.

Of course the ZyXEL hasn't been without it's issues, but it's getting better.

Regards

Phil

[mjgr33n]

[adrenalize]

Had a very quick play with my D7000 all OK so far.

I find with all these domestic routers you have to pick and choose the bits that suit you, which is unfortunate especially as I guess its due mainly to economics.

I've had hands on a couple of the VDSL ones (ZyXEL VMG8924 and the D7000) as well as a whole bunch of ADSL ones and all seem to have features missing or bugs.

I worked a long time ago in software engineering and some of these things should be such a simple fix and very frustrating when you see code reuse and hence bugs across several products.

My 'fibre' is only being connected next week so I'll see how it goes then (annoyingly self install so I'll have to grab my own SSFP!)

[ricke17]

Has anyone managed to successfully set up IPTV using the D7000 - I am having major problems.  I have selected LAN 4 for IPTV and used the same settings there that are for my Internet (plusnet) and have run an ethernet cable from LAN 4 to the Youview box but the Youview box says it is not connected.