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[j0hn]

That minimum guarantee is curious, surely they don't only have 10 customers per PON?

No difference to BT offering a 700Mb minimum on a product their supplier guarantees 110Mb/s on a GPON 30 way split.

It's never going to be possible if everyone utilises it all at once, but that's never the case.

[Alex Atkin UK]

No difference to BT offering a 700Mb minimum on a product their supplier guarantees 110Mb/s on a GPON 30 way split.

It's never going to be possible if everyone utilises it all at once, but that's never the case.

Its a far higher potential contention ratio on XGS-PON though, given we know OR is only up to 30 customers per 2.5Gbit and not all OR ISPs have a minimum guarantee.  I'd expect VMO to be considerable more customers per PON and be more aggressive to get people onto it, off their legacy offerings.

I suppose it is nonsense really given AFAIK the only thing that allows is leaving your contract early, which doesn't solve anything if the alternatives are with the same underlying network.

[dee.jay]

Well it is nexfibre who are building the network, we don't know or can't simply assume they will be overcontended, but a good point...

[Chrysalis]

This is actually now cheaper than gig1 lol, VM informed me if I dont renew gig1 is nearly £90.

[Alex Atkin UK]

That's one of the things that really puts me off VMO, constantly having to haggle a new contract as their "special offer" prices are what every other ISP would consider a normal, sane, price.

[Ronski]

Alex, that really frustrates me as well, their prices are expensive, unless you go through the whole, haggle, cancel, retentions thing. Just been through it, as I don't have any other option.

[skyeci]

How much! £84... . I pay you fibre £49 Inc fixed ip. I get 1900/1850 no trouble and occasionally a bit more..

[Ronski]

My brothers paying £25 a month for 1Gbps symmetrical with Community fibre, even 3Gbps symmetrical is only £49 a month. Only catch is its CGNAT, although it appears the 3Gbps isn't.

[dee.jay]

How much! £84... . I pay you fibre £49 Inc fixed ip. I get 1900/1850 no trouble and occasionally a bit more..

Lucky you! YouFibre will not build my street, so they could be £1/mo for all the use it is to me.

[Chrysalis]

The renew price I was offered as a sort of automated retentions deal was £36 but also having to keep the O2 sim going on top of that so a £7 increase, however I will be ordering CF this week, probably today.  So I get a number of weeks comparing the 2 services side by side.

VM solved all my packet loss issues I was having whilst downloading, and I want to be sure those issues dont come back on FTTP PPPoE.

VM's non committal pricing has probably screwed themselves, if they let me keep going on my current price on a rolling contract then I probably keep them alongside FTTP.  These kind of policies are nonsensical.  I might give human retentions one chance to do something sensible, although I expect it will be out of their hands.

[Ronski]

You've got a huge bargaining chip, as you have CF available, retentions should come up with a much better price, but don't forget to factor in the April price rise.

[Chrysalis]

Yep, the problem is I dont want to be tied in.

[S.Stephenson]

External work done they are side by side the wires even run parallel.

[biohead]

External work done they are side by side the wires even run parallel.

What does the internal install look like? I presume the fibre goes direct to the hub from the CSP, no internal demarcation "point" as such?

[S.Stephenson]

Getting like 2100 up and download


Has this on wall and just a single cable going from it to the HH5.