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[Ronski]

Very nice, I'd happily pay the £6 for symmetric speeds, but alas its not available to me.

[dee.jay]

Well - Openreach contractors are now down my street, chambers are open and rods are being used.

Think this may now be a race for VM and OR to enable my street at this point! Promising signs indeed, finally.

[dee.jay]

BT Wholesale checker now reports WBC FTTPoD speeds of 1000/220.

I think this means OR FTTP will be available to order pretty soon.

[dee.jay]

Well I didn't think it'd be the very next day!

Openreach checker now has the magic words: -

FTTP is available and a new ONT may be ordered.

[Ronski]

Very nice, no such news here.

[dee.jay]

AAISP FTTP ordered, install on 22nd

[dee.jay]

Bah, Openreach came yesterday to attempt the fibre pull... blockage. Oh well, civils team time!

[Black Sheep]

Bah, Openreach came yesterday to attempt the fibre pull... blockage. Oh well, civils team time!

I did prompt you in readiness for this scenario via PM, in January mate 

There are two scenarios (please all, this is in general terms - may differ in some circumstances) ...

1) The estate is a full 'Direct in ground' (DiG) cabled area - known as 'Full DiG'.

In this case, the project will be moved out, as the costs are very high.

2) The estate is a partial 'Direct in ground' cabled area - known as 'Partial DiG'.

In this case, the main feed cables are fed via joint-boxes and ducts along the pavement etc. This allows the FTTP infrastructure to be laid down and connected from HE to the CBT. But, it will still be DiG from the pavement box to the cutomers premises.

When a customer places an order, then the Openreach Service Delivery teams will jump to action and have the necessary remedial civils work completed.

This makes sense as (for example), not all the 100 customers on the estate will require FTTP .... so it's acted upon orders placed.

[dee.jay]

Oh yeah, my neighbour ordered FTTP the same time as me and they were able to pull the cable through. I think the issue at my house is to do with work I had done years ago, maybe cement has gotten somewhere or done something.

We are definitely at least a partial build, as all the fibres and CBT's were installed only last month with ordering going live last week.

[j0hn]

I did prompt you in readiness for this scenario via PM, in January mate 

There are two scenarios (please all, this is in general terms - may differ in some circumstances) ...

1) The estate is a full 'Direct in ground' (DiG) cabled area - known as 'Full DiG'.

In this case, the project will be moved out, as the costs are very high.

I assume this wouldn't be the case in dee.jay's specific scenario where FTTP is already RFS and ordered?

With splitters and CBT's in place already I would hope that worst case scenario would be the possibility of ECC's being applied to an individuals install.

[dee.jay]

I assume this wouldn't be the case in dee.jay's specific scenario where FTTP is already RFS and ordered?

With splitters and CBT's in place already I would hope that worst case scenario would be the possibility of ECC's being applied to an individuals install.

Openreach Engineer chap even said "no charge"

[Black Sheep]

I assume this wouldn't be the case in dee.jay's specific scenario where FTTP is already RFS and ordered?

With splitters and CBT's in place already I would hope that worst case scenario would be the possibility of ECC's being applied to an individuals install.

It absolutely would be the case on all 'Partial DiG' estates. The CBT will be left in the joint-box and cabled and spliced through back to the HE, as mentioned.

Once an order is placed by the EU, the stage 1 process takes place and the remainder of the civils work takes place from the joint-box to the customers premises at obviously, no cost to themselves.

When dee-jay reached out in January, the network records showed his particular road as being partial DiG, and as I always mention, this is an indication only and not set in stone.

[dee.jay]

Quick question if I may. I note when it was first showing up as available, it was "KCI2 Assure", then changed to 1 Stage. I assume 1 Stage is the better one to have.

[Black Sheep]

Quick question if I may. I note when it was first showing up as available, it was "KCI2 Assure", then changed to 1 Stage. I assume 1 Stage is the better one to have.

This is more j0hn's domain I would humbly suggest, as he is on 'that side of the fence'. But as an educated guess, I would absolutely say 'Stage 1' is the better of the two ..... simply because a job wouldn't progress through to 'Stage 1', without an active order in play.

j0hn's systems/terminology may well be different to mine ..... but it's very simple in my eyes ..... the infrastructure from HE to CBT is fully in place and has gone to CRFS (Customer Ready For Service).

Once the EU places an order, the OR systems will either recognise straightaway that the order requires moving to 'Stage 1', due to the 'Survey Network Notes' that are recorded against each premises (a prime example being a partial DiG estate).
Or, it will go direct to an installation date if the SNN marker states 'Fluid duct' etc etc.

However, as is such, the installation engineers may well find an issue on the day, that then requires it moving to 'Stage 1'.

Either way, relax and let it run its course. You'll soon have FTTP 

[dee.jay]

Thank you, as ever.

As we build all our own network, there is still much I don’t know about the big OR machine as whilst we do supply some connections over GEA, I’m not part of that lifecycle from the OR side, though am very involved in connecting those to the network and making sure the L3 service operates.

Also, curious to know exactly what j0hn does. Have suspected he’s in the industry as he’s clearly very deeply knowledgable, but never figured out where