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Author Topic: FTTC- Possible REIN Issues?  (Read 63841 times)

magicone

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Re: FTTC- Possible REIN Issues?
« Reply #105 on: March 25, 2011, 04:04:28 PM »
Another engineer has just been round and has told me that he has been contacted by email from the REIN team and have asked for an RF filter to be fitted which is now done. The engineer has stated that after this there is absolutely nothing else that can be physically done by the engineers so if there is still an issue with the line due to the REIN its down to the REIN engineers to sort out.
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Re: FTTC- Possible REIN Issues?
« Reply #106 on: March 25, 2011, 07:06:30 PM »
Don't wanna say I told you so, but I posted this very early on in this thread ..............

I'll be honest and say, I'd be surprised if the engineers get a REIN visit before a Lift and Shift is attempted. Its part of the protocol we have to adhere to on the crib sheet. REIN engineers will only usually attend if we have done a L&S,D-side change,E-side change,Fitted new NTE5,Fitted a RF3 filter, Fitted a NTE2000. I've not had call to get them out recently, so not sure if the process is still the same.

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Re: FTTC- Possible REIN Issues?
« Reply #107 on: March 28, 2011, 04:48:25 PM »
Good news, finally after 3 months my case has been handed over to the REIN team, their initial report will be released tomorrow! ;D
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Re: FTTC- Possible REIN Issues?
« Reply #108 on: March 28, 2011, 07:37:40 PM »
Quote from: magicone on March 28, 2011, 04:48:25 PM
Good news, finally after 3 months my case has been handed over to the REIN team, their initial report will be released tomorrow! ;D

Thats the hard bit done !!! Just the fault to find now. ;)
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magicone

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Re: FTTC- Possible REIN Issues?
« Reply #109 on: March 31, 2011, 05:30:09 PM »
An SFI trained REIN engineer has turned up today with an RF 444b tester, unfortunately they didn't manage to find the location of the REIN as they think the device has been switched off. They will be returning tomorrow to have a look, hopefully they will have more luck!
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Re: FTTC- Possible REIN Issues?
« Reply #110 on: March 31, 2011, 05:31:51 PM »
Now the fun starts! Hopefully the device will be turned on this time around.
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Re: FTTC- Possible REIN Issues?
« Reply #111 on: March 31, 2011, 07:39:09 PM »
Quote from: magicone on March 31, 2011, 05:30:09 PM
An SFI trained REIN engineer has turned up today with an RF 444b tester, unfortunately they didn't manage to find the location of the REIN as they think the device has been switched off. They will be returning tomorrow to have a look, hopefully they will have more luck!

Get his autograph magicone ..... it's worth more than the Queens. ;)
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Re: FTTC- Possible REIN Issues?
« Reply #112 on: March 31, 2011, 08:01:31 PM »
I am wondering if it is possible to purchase an RF444B ? I suppose it depends upon whether it is made to spec solely for BTO use . . .   :-\

Mr. RP, please, are you able to clarify?
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Re: FTTC- Possible REIN Issues?
« Reply #113 on: March 31, 2011, 08:11:58 PM »
Quote from: burakkucat on March 31, 2011, 08:01:31 PM
I am wondering if it is possible to purchase an RF444B ? I suppose it depends upon whether it is made to spec solely for BTO use . . .   :-\

Mr. RP, please, are you able to clarify?

Again, i'm not an expert in the realms of REIN faulting, but I was told by a REIN trainer that the 444b meter they use, was invented and cobbled together by the A-typical man-in-the-shed mad professor. I don't know the ins and outs, but would guess that that particular design (444b) will be 'tied in' exclusively to BTo from the inventor. Thats not to say another form of tester isn't available on the market. In all honesty, I don't know.
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Re: FTTC- Possible REIN Issues?
« Reply #114 on: March 31, 2011, 09:03:38 PM »
Quote from: razpag on March 31, 2011, 08:11:58 PM
In all honesty, I don't know.

That's good enough for me. Thank you.
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Re: FTTC- Possible REIN Issues?
« Reply #115 on: March 31, 2011, 11:31:18 PM »
wouldnt a radio direction finder do the same job as the 444b?
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Re: FTTC- Possible REIN Issues?
« Reply #116 on: April 01, 2011, 01:05:59 AM »
Quote from: lemzip on March 31, 2011, 11:31:18 PM
wouldnt a radio direction finder do the same job as the 444b?

Yes, I'm sure it would. I would like something that is sufficiently small to be carried in one hand and is as accurate as what the proper men use. Do you have any suggestions?
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Re: FTTC- Possible REIN Issues?
« Reply #117 on: April 01, 2011, 06:49:13 AM »
Quote from: lemzip on March 31, 2011, 11:31:18 PM
wouldnt a radio direction finder do the same job as the 444b?

I have got a Nova Pal Radio direction finder but I was struggling to find the correct frequency for the REIN so gave up, might ask the REIN engineer tomorrow to see what frequency I should be looking at, at least then I can try and find the REIN when he isn't there.
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Re: FTTC- Possible REIN Issues?
« Reply #118 on: April 01, 2011, 08:10:06 AM »
Hi Magicone,

If you look here you'll see what our very own respected BT expert suggests:-

http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,8819.msg184627.html#msg184627

You can also examine your bit loading diagram and then use :-

http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/adsl_technology.htm

scrolling down to the "ADSL Frequency Bins & Tones" window to give you any tone frequency you desire !

(What a clever Kitz !)

Kind regards,
Walter
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Re: FTTC- Possible REIN Issues?
« Reply #119 on: April 01, 2011, 12:29:06 PM »
Walter, that first link you've kindly provided is this same thread, just a page back.

I'm still waiting for Ezzer to comment on a question I asked about REIN myself, also, the 'experts' I know involved with REIN, and our in-house guideline documents all say you will only detect REIN at 612Khz on the MW scale. Other interferences at different frequencies found on bit-loading graphs will not be associated with REIN apparently.
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