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[Ronski]

In my case I had 350 mainly to get a decent upload speed, which was 35, I was paying £34 a month.

The April price rise came round, and it was going to increase my monthly charge to £37 a month.

I then accepted an upgrade offer to the 500 package, which increased my monthly cost to £36.24, and no price rise until April 2025, so slightly cheaper and much faster, and with a 50 Mbps upload.

I then logged in to remove marketing permissions, and noticed an upgrade offer for 1 Gig for £40, an increase of £3.74, well for that small amount it would be rude not to, and I also get a nice increase in my upload to 100 Mbps.

Do I really need 1 Gig, no not really, it just a nice to have, and nice to have a better upload speed.

My brother has 1 Gig symmetrical, much cheaper as well, but he uses a VPN between his house and his partners, so the faster speeds really do help.

There's many other reasons, downloading software quicker, uploading to cloud back up etc, it really depends what you use you connection for.

[Alex Atkin UK]

Why do people need 1gbps download speed? I have 150mbps and I consider it adequate.

Genuine question, by the way.

Sure I've explained it before but will summarise.

I suffer from fatigue, so when I'm feeling alert enough to game, I want to game NOW.  But I often find the game I want to play has an update, and some of those updates are frustratingly large.  So being able to download that update quicker means I'm more likely to still feel up to playing the game when its done.

[Chrysalis]

Why do people need 1gbps download speed? I have 150mbps and I consider it adequate.

Genuine question, by the way.

For me combination of having so much bandwidth I dont need to traffic shape, this was a bit of a nightmare on VDSL.

Also downloading 100gig games (plus their large patches), as well as things like long several hour twitch streams is far much quicker now, I am a bit impatient on things like that.

Now I finally have access to LAN type speeds for uploads I also plan to start utilising cloud heavily for data backups.

[doofus]

Hi Chrysalis, yes I agree limiting and then shaping on pfsense and the like is a total nightmare.
Not needing to shape is ideal, but when using the circuit at full blast a little helping hand is nice.

I have started using CAKE on my ubuntu server router box for inbound and outbound traffic. You don't need to configure anything these days, just use the defaults.
Even the default for bandwidth rate is now 'unlimited' so no need to calculate 80/90% or fiddle with that setting either.


I apply this via /etc/ppp/ip-up

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ip link set ppp0 mtu 1500 txqueuelen 1000 state up
ip link add name ifb4ppp0 type ifb
tc qdisc add dev ppp0 handle ffff: ingress
tc qdisc add dev ifb4ppp0 root cake
ip link set ifb4ppp0 up state up
tc filter add dev ppp0 parent ffff: matchall action mirred egress redirect dev ifb4ppp0
tc qdisc replace dev ppp0 root cake


Info: https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/noble/en/man8/tc-cake.8.html

[Alex Atkin UK]

I only have traffic shaping on upstream, a helping hand to keep latency down during uploads.

Downloads is more related to how well the ISP end is keeping traffic below the line profile.

[Chrysalis]

Hi Chrysalis, yes I agree limiting and then shaping on pfsense and the like is a total nightmare.
Not needing to shape is ideal, but when using the circuit at full blast a little helping hand is nice.

I have started using CAKE on my ubuntu server router box for inbound and outbound traffic. You don't need to configure anything these days, just use the defaults.
Even the default for bandwidth rate is now 'unlimited' so no need to calculate 80/90% or fiddle with that setting either.


I apply this via /etc/ppp/ip-up

Code: [Select]

ip link set ppp0 mtu 1500 txqueuelen 1000 state up
ip link add name ifb4ppp0 type ifb
tc qdisc add dev ppp0 handle ffff: ingress
tc qdisc add dev ifb4ppp0 root cake
ip link set ifb4ppp0 up state up
tc filter add dev ppp0 parent ffff: matchall action mirred egress redirect dev ifb4ppp0
tc qdisc replace dev ppp0 root cake


Info: https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/noble/en/man8/tc-cake.8.html

Yeah I also have the opinion its easier on Linux systems, hopefully some find your post useful, and I will make a note of it.

[dee.jay]

I’ve never done a “pure” Linux router.

Might try one for grins

Good tip here

[XGS_Is_On]

Why do people need 1gbps download speed? I have 150mbps and I consider it adequate.

Genuine question, by the way.

I don't need it, I just like it 

[dee.jay]

Why do people need 1gbps download speed? I have 150mbps and I consider it adequate.

Genuine question, by the way.

Good for you, enjoy your 150.

I’ll enjoy my 1000, cheers.

[doofus]

I would really 'enjoy' symmetrical 8 Gbps like Mr. XGS   

[dee.jay]

I would really 'enjoy' symmetrical 8 Gbps like Mr. XGS   

Yeah me too 😂

[Alex Atkin UK]

I would really 'enjoy' symmetrical 8 Gbps like Mr. XGS   

I wouldn't enjoy the price though.

[dee.jay]

I wouldn't enjoy the price though.

Given how much 1Gbps, 10TB AAISP is… I’d give 8Gbps YF a go.

[dee.jay]

And finally, 7 months after the dig, VM is live.

Oh well.