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Author Topic: High QLN & Other Issues.  (Read 20582 times)

Black Sheep

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Re: High QLN & Other Issues.
« Reply #60 on: July 29, 2014, 08:19:34 PM »

You've lost me, Boost ?? I would say nigh-on 100% of all in-house engineers have either an EXFO or a JDSU.  ;D
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Re: High QLN & Other Issues.
« Reply #61 on: July 29, 2014, 08:21:13 PM »

In Poland unfortunately engineers has not got JDSU. Netia for example uses NetiaSpot modem to test.
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Re: High QLN & Other Issues.
« Reply #62 on: July 29, 2014, 08:36:24 PM »

Are they poor in comparison, konrado ?? Never heard of them.
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Re: High QLN & Other Issues.
« Reply #63 on: July 29, 2014, 08:46:21 PM »

NetiaSpot is Netia's router. I've heard they are poor.
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Re: High QLN & Other Issues.
« Reply #64 on: July 29, 2014, 08:58:07 PM »

Ah right, so they're just a router ...... not a tester ?? Do you know what instrument is most widely used in Poland to test the metallic path facility ??
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Re: High QLN & Other Issues.
« Reply #65 on: July 29, 2014, 10:02:57 PM »

Ah right, so they're just a router ...... not a tester ?? Do you know what instrument is most widely used in Poland to test the metallic path facility ??
Most widely they use only some router and generator.  Hardly ever semone uses CableShaker.
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Re: High QLN & Other Issues.
« Reply #66 on: July 29, 2014, 10:24:57 PM »

Those pics are after the cable down the side of the house were replaced.

(Internets are still bad, but I assume the dslam will fix it if the line is good...)
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Re: High QLN & Other Issues.
« Reply #67 on: July 29, 2014, 10:39:45 PM »

My connection has been stable for 8+ hours now.

Here's some graphs. I noticed on the previous graph I was missing a few tones, here they are present.

Is there any reason as to why my max upload rate is only 888Kbps?
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Re: High QLN & Other Issues.
« Reply #68 on: July 30, 2014, 10:32:01 PM »

Wholesale always make such a point of 'we only do the coppery bits' that you kinda expect the toolbox to include nothing more than a wire cutters and a stamp down tool! :D
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Re: High QLN & Other Issues.
« Reply #69 on: July 30, 2014, 11:37:13 PM »

1 day later. Speed has increased, but not to the full attainable rate.

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Stats recorded 30 Jul 2014 23:36:01

DSLAM/MSAN type:        IFTN:0x71c8 / v0x71c8
Modem/router firmware:  AnnexA version - A2pD030g.d22j
DSL mode:                ADSL2+
Status:                  Showtime
Uptime:                  9 hours 16 min 21 sec
Resyncs:                0 (since 29 Jul 2014 23:25:28)

Downstream Upstream
Line attenuation (dB):  9.5 5.5
Signal attenuation (dB): 9.5 4.8
Connection speed (kbps): 8128 448
SNR margin (dB):        12.1 30.0
Power (dBm):            19.7 9.4
Interleave depth:        1 1
INP:                    0 0

RSCorr/RS (%):          N/A N/A
RSUnCorr/RS (%):        N/A N/A
ES/hour:                1.17 0

Speed isn't a massive issue, though it would be nice to return to normal. I'm just happy I don't have many errors and the interleave is off.
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Re: High QLN & Other Issues.
« Reply #70 on: July 31, 2014, 12:05:33 AM »

I wonder if it's worth asking for an SNR reset?

At a glance, those line stats are good for 20Mb ish? Your current synch screams ADSL Max too, despite ADSL2+ being neg'd.
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Re: High QLN & Other Issues.
« Reply #71 on: July 31, 2014, 12:43:30 AM »

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Connection speed (kbps):   8128      448

Which is a standard adsl1 sync speed, yet dslmode is ADSL2+ suggesting an artificial limit is in place somewhere. 
Ive said elsewhere that your stats are similar to what mine were on adsl2+ annex_m and I could at one time get the full 24/2.6 Mb.   Overtime crosstalk took some of that away but you should still be able to get >20Mb

My first port of call is to make sure that the ISP has the correct account type.  If it was anything related to the DSLAM or DLM then I wouldnt expect to see ADSL2+ as the DSL mode.
The fact that interleave has been turned off indicates possibly that the DLM has recently been reset.
iirc youre paying for annex_m...  and that account is definitely not set as annex-m so you need to get on to your ISP again Im afraid.
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Re: High QLN & Other Issues.
« Reply #72 on: July 31, 2014, 07:39:08 AM »

Wholesale always make such a point of 'we only do the coppery bits' that you kinda expect the toolbox to include nothing more than a wire cutters and a stamp down tool! :D

Ha ha , I see where you're coming from .... as far as I'm aware though, 'Wholesale' do the backhaul bit (Completely fibre-based), not the 'coppery bit'. That's left to us ..... Openreach. Both are BT 'Lines of business', but completely separate from one another.

As we all know, it's the 'coppery bit' that determines the success of a ADSL/VDSL (FTTC) circuit, which is why there was a programmes rolled out a few years ago to bring the standard of testers up to par. However, the SIN tests which were agreed by all parties when unbundling came to fruition, isn't as good as it maybe could be on some circuits.

That's not for me to debate though and I fear we may be wandering OT slightly. This was just for awareness purposes.  :) :) 
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Re: High QLN & Other Issues.
« Reply #73 on: July 31, 2014, 09:32:51 AM »

Excellent info as always, cheers :D
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Re: High QLN & Other Issues.
« Reply #74 on: July 31, 2014, 09:58:47 AM »

 :drink:
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