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Chunkers

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Smart Devices that are not stupid
« on: January 19, 2026, 09:11:30 AM »

Smart Devices that are actually worth having (opinions may vary). I thought it might be fun to vent a bit and learn from others.

Nowadays so much stuff you buy is 'smart' its ridiculous, being a grumpy old man I happen to think most of the time its not actually worth having and wish they spent the money on making the device more robustly. There are one or two notable exceptions - I was just wondering whether there are any devices you think are particularly good and worth getting?

Here is a short account of my smart grumpiness :

Smart Bulbs : they are fun for about 5 minutes but in my house other house members continue to use the wall switches so you just end up shouting to yourself because someone else switched it off.  Upstairs I don't like them as they wake up other people when you talk to them. Usefulness factor 3/10.
Alexa : we use it for the shopping list function, to tell us what colour bin to put out (an app) and also to laugh at when she doesn't know the answer to our questions or mis-hears the question. Can't be relied upon for accurate information, doesn't know what's on telly or which football teams are playing and probably reports everything it hears back to some central database and eavesdrops on every discussion.  4/10
Smart washing machine : Bought a new washing machine a couple of years ago and it came with Smart features and an app . Ridiculous shenanigans, pointless 1/10
Smart (video) doorbell : Very useful, really like this, has improved security, wife even uses it to communicate with the cat. 8/10
Smart TV / Firestick i.e. one you can shout at : Firesticks have undoubtedly improved telly, so no complaints other than the voice features seem pretty terrible - its 50/50 whether ours can turn on the sound bar .... come on.  7/10
Smart heating : We had a (Google) Nest and now have a Hive since Google just decided they were no longer supporting our Nest. Our Nest was fine, in order to get the equivalent service from Hive we would have to pay a monthly subscription. 5/10
Smart cars : Voice recognition in both the Mini and the Tesla is horrible, almost never recognises the command. Tesla 'Autopilot' is garbage in the UK and always has been, as an end user I would argue the Autopilot in our 2015 Tesla was not significantly worse than the one in our 2022. If you live in the countryside with tiny roads and passing places (like I do) it just can't cope. 90% hype, 10% functionality. Cruise control was fine in the 80's. Autopark feature? Don't even bother trying in our cars, lol. 1/10
Smart watches : My main beef with these is they are huge, UGLY and with terrible battery life and very expensive. I'm not convinced we need to know our heart rate every second of the day. Also - I feel like taking calls on your watch in public is just as anti-social as shouting at your phone on speaker. Wife likes hers so I'll give them 4/10.

I AM curious about :
  • Smart lawnmowers : Anyone got one?
  • Smart Fridges : surely completely useless?
  • Smart Toaster : go away
  • Smart Toilet : have you seen those Japanese ones?

By the way, for people who have disabilities or are not fully able-bodied I can appreciate how these things might be very helpful - I am just commenting on their usefulness from my own perspective as an able-bodied gammon.

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Re: Smart Devices that are not stupid
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2026, 10:21:03 AM »

I've got two Wi-Fi connected units that are vaguely useful:
1. Dishwasher. Mainly because at my age it's easier to tap away on an iPad to set the program than bend down and squint at a low-level, difficult to comprehend set of buttons.
2. Central heating controls (Wiser) added to an otherwise old, traditional system. The wireless thermostat can be placed somewhere sensible rather than the draughty hallway originally chosen and wired in. And you can control it remotely, so handy to turn everything back up when returning from a holiday. Also programming allows for more flexibility, though that's minor compared to the original (clockwork) and interim (electronic) timers. Finally it seems to reasonably intelligently take note of the weather (internet delivered data) and adjust accordingly, so not just driven by the thermostat.

As for cars I have one with "traditional" cruise control which I use when appropriate. The other has radar (adaptive) cruise control that works really well and I use it all the time. It also has "self-parking" that I have used just once to see what it does. I can park better and faster! It's also loaded with sensors and warning systems (Volvo!) that sort of have their uses...
Oh, both cars have memory drivers seats (and mirrors) linked to the key, but that technology has been around for decades, I call it "essential convenience" but not particularly smart.
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Re: Smart Devices that are not stupid
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2026, 10:31:29 AM »

My wife will not give any Smart devices house room, she even hates the electric windows in our car and prefers the old fashion wind up/down handle  :lol: Her view is that the world is being dumbed down and what happens when the internet goes down or the power fails and nothing works! Manual things always work and if they break they are usually easily fixable!

Our car does have speed limiter, automatic engine stop/start when stationary, cruise control and hill start assist - the latter two do get used but I do the driving  :lol:

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Re: Smart Devices that are not stupid
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2026, 11:35:37 AM »

Recently picked up a Google Home Mini that is used as a radio substitute as the reception is poor where I live. It works very nicely in that role with the only real downside being that it can be a bit behind real radio - sometimes by up to a minute.
As for things like smart washing machines and dishwashers I'm afraid I cannot see the point at all.
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Re: Smart Devices that are not stupid
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2026, 12:32:29 PM »

Smart Bulbs - Absolute god send as the light switch is at one end of my room with the TV at the other.  Able to dim the lights when watching a movie and turn them back on so I don't break my neck trying to get to the light switch.  Also means I do not need a lamp next to the bed as I can remotely turn off the main lights.

Alexa - Only use it for alarms, timers and the above.  One of these days I will get round to replacing it with Home Assistant.

Washing Machine - I kinda agree, don't see the need for such a thing.  My coffee machine has an app and its utterly pointless given I have to get the milk out of the fridge and put a cup under the machine before I can use it anyway.

Smart Doorbell - Wont consider the idea until I get Home Assistant setup and assuming any work without "the cloud".

Smart TV -  I use the streaming apps, but voice control is utterly pointless as it can't hear me above what I am watching.  Had this problem ever since Xbox Kinect, its just a bad idea.  Maybe one day AI will get good enough to distinguish between my voice and ambient noise, but that seems a whole lot of compute just to do something an old fashioned remote can do quicker.  I used to have an all-in-one universal remote that you could program a list of tasks to do, it still ended up more hassle than using the individual remotes in the long run.

Smart Cars - I don't even own a car.

Smart Watch - I actually loved my Samsung watch but I had a horrible allergic reaction when wearing it. :(  Plus the battery life is a pain.

Smart Apps on my phone, they're all garbage compared to using devices own controls.  The trend of moving everything to phone apps is just hugely frustrating, far more awkward to do everything.
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Re: Smart Devices that are not stupid
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2026, 04:29:48 PM »

Ask Alexa,

Alexa what was my last Amazon order?

Alexa will list the last three purchases of the owner to whoever asks  :lol:

I showed my sister that purchases were enabled on her Echo 5 she used to speak to her in laws, Alexa order me a a dolls house I said and she immediately had to cancel a £400 dolls house, and unplugged the Echo 5 permanently  :lol:

I'm currently investigating ESPHome.
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Re: Smart Devices that are not stupid
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2026, 03:38:43 AM »

I showed my sister that purchases were enabled on her Echo 5 she used to speak to her in laws, Alexa order me a a dolls house I said and she immediately had to cancel a £400 dolls house, and unplugged the Echo 5 permanently  :lol:

A bit extreme given you can just turn off voice purchasing.
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Re: Smart Devices that are not stupid
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2026, 10:00:36 AM »

Smart bulbs - linked to presence sensors in the hallway and bathroom - very good when you can't use your hands and to switch off lights automatically when no-one around. If you have Hue, you can actually install a special type of thingy in the switch so that you can use smart bulbs even when the switch is in the off position (Philips Hue Smart Wall Switch Module Twin Pack. Works with Alexa, Google Assistant and Apple Homekit, Black https://amzn.eu/d/iWJVTVL - I've read it may not fully fit in British sockets, but worth exploring). I can just switch off my smart light from bed. Also, being able to reduce the intensity of the light - especially in the middle of the night when you get up or still work at the PC - and its temperature (cold in the morning, warm in the evening and at night), as well as to imitate presence for security purposes when you're away, which is what people use them for, too - is a godsend.

Smart contact sensors - I have bought them but not installed them yet - will be using them to check that I've shut the door properly as I'm often in a hurry and to switch on the light when I'm back in the evening.

Smart socket switch - with Christmas decorations or even lights being on at certain times, it's a great device. Also, using a smart bulb to imitate a flickering star for a Christmas decoration is great fun.

Chromecast stick with remote control - turned our old TV into a smart TV. Thanks to it, I can access TV channels from abroad, too, and enabled us to watch select programmes when we have the time. Amazing for those that have busy lives.

Chromecast audio - no longer made but an excellent device to turn an old hifi into a smart device.

Smartphone - use it for everything, including the management of my medical condition. Landline calls can be answered on my smartphone, too, not to mention other useful apps like monitoring aurora or check what plane is flying above, or buy things, or have all your loyalty cards in one place. Also use it for traffic to work and any road closures, so use Google maps daily for that. For bus and tram times. For plane departure notifications. When travelling abroad at night by public transport, I use Google maps to tell me how far away I'm from my destination so not to miss the stop. As Google translate to either scan and translate notifications, labels on products (I don't speak French but it was useful to do that in France where labels had no English translation), but also to communicate with locals using text to speech. Also, when in new places, to navigate around.

Rpi - using it for a variety of purposes, and I wouldn't be able to live without it, I don't think. What a great invention.

Washing machine - it's useful to switch it off from the comfort of your sofa when its finished the wash or dry cycle. Also, very helpful to know when to run a tub clean. Also, being able to use custom programmes that can be downloaded is very helpful. Also very useful in situations when you're on different tariffs and forget to switch yours on/off at those times. 

Smart temperature gauge - my freezer is in the outhouse so a smart temperature gauge is good to monitor its temperature via the smartphone and be told when it's out of range. It's now happened twice that the door wasn't shut properly and I got a notification before the food was completely ruined.

Leak detector - our boiler is in the outhouse, too, so it's good to be able to be notified of any leaks.

Smart CCTV - being able to monitor outside and to check on pets. I do know of a person that used indoor CCTV to check on their elderly, but I also used it to check on whether we had mice in the attic by placing it right in front of the bait (we didn't) but also to monitor activity in a bird box. If you pay a subscription, indoor CCTV can be used to detect fires (both sound and visual detection) but also the sound of shattered glass, not to mention packages/deliveries at your door etc. You can set up a routine for your battery operated camera to sound an alarm, so good if you want to put off cats or foxes from fouling in your garden.

Smart fire detector - ability to switch it off from the app, especially if you don't have a long pole nearby, or to be notified when the battery runs out which is helpful when you go away on holiday and don't want to annoy neighbours for a considerable period of time

Doorbell - easy to answer calls, especially when there's a delivery and you can't immediately go to the door. Very useful during the pandemic when I was at work (i.e. in calls), or even when you lock yourself out without the phone on you. Smart chimes let you hear the doorbell in different rooms.

Roomba - elderly people especially enjoy having a roomba to hoover. My elderly neighbours use it daily as hovering is now a considerable effort for them.

Tile - my mother uses one to locate her keys as she always misplaced them. So, it gives a sound notification where they are.

Sports band - my mother uses it to count steps which motivates her to do some exercise. She then enjoys looking at the stats on her phone and especially is then proud of the distance travelled, steps taken etc.

You seem to think that smart devices are about giving them commands or shouting at them. I think smart devices (sensors especially) are here to do the mundane and repetitive work for you. I don't actually talk to any of my devices, even my Chromecast, because I see no point; I've tried to configure mine in a way that improves my life to make it easier for me.

All in all, all that can make your life easier and enjoyable.
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Re: Smart Devices that are not stupid
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2026, 11:08:38 AM »

Smart fridge/freezer is very much something I would like for the reasons you said.  The freezer is badly in need of a defrost due to the door not being closed properly, although just including an audible warning is probably enough.

Smart Doorbells actually really annoy me as they're all about apps on your phone, which is utterly useless when I need my mum to be able to operate it and she can no longer operate a smartphone.  Been keeping an eye out for some sort of intercom she can use and failed to find anything.

Its actually a big problem with a lot of smart devices that they don't seem to have considered disabled people where they can actually make things harder not easier.
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Re: Smart Devices that are not stupid
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2026, 11:18:25 AM »

You can attach a contact sensor to your fridge and be notified by an app to be notified when the door is open.

There are lots of apps that do help disabled people. I use one for the management of my condition but I've seen a person with sight problems using a phone camera to make things bigger on her phone and also for those that are blind to use the phone to help them navigate around - for example for descriptions of the surroundings or to help them with timetables. As I said above, a smart hoover is very helpful to improve the quality of life. A small doorbell can be used by a person's bed to attract attention by that disabled person. Also, if dyslexic, there are lots of apps out there to help like dragon dictate etc.
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Re: Smart Devices that are not stupid
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2026, 03:02:04 PM »

None of which are useful for someone with Dementia unfortunately.
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Re: Smart Devices that are not stupid
« Reply #11 on: Today at 09:05:26 AM »

Has been interesting reading other peoples views, we now looking for a new fridge so having the same kind of conversation at home.

I love tinkering with stuff but I still think 90% of 'Smart' stuff is marketing / novelty value but I guess I can see a future when it either becomes useful or so intrusive I have to purge my house, lol. Not to worry, I also think actual pace of progress means I'll be dead by then anyway.

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