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Author Topic: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.  (Read 266140 times)

Chrysalis

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Re: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.
« Reply #480 on: June 06, 2015, 09:02:44 AM »

with such healthy snrm on both up/down dont worry about g.inp :)
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Re: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.
« Reply #481 on: June 06, 2015, 10:19:19 PM »

connection been resyning on & off since 5pm today.
Interleaving been low as 2 & high as 16.


Code: [Select]
xdslcmd info --stats
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Retrain Reason: 2
Last initialization procedure status: 0
Max: Upstream rate = 3859 Kbps, Downstream rate = 13923 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 3800 Kbps, Downstream rate = 14259 Kbps
Bearer: 1, Upstream rate = 0 Kbps, Downstream rate = 0 Kbps
Link Power State: L0
Mode: VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile: Profile 17a
TPS-TC: PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis: U:ON /D:ON
Line Status: No Defect
Training Status: Showtime
Down Up
SNR (dB): 6.3 6.0
Attn(dB): 26.7 0.0
Pwr(dBm): 12.6 1.7
VDSL2 framing
Bearer 0
MSGc: -6 -6
B: 219 228
M: 1 1
T: 0 0
R: 16 16
S: 0.4904 1.9085
L: 3850 1027
D: 8 2
I: 236 245
N: 236 245
Q: 8 2
V: 3 1
RxQueue: 12 12
TxQueue: 6 6
G.INP Framing: 18 18
G.INP lookback: 6 6
RRC bits: 24 24
Bearer 1
MSGc: 90 58
B: 0 0
M: 2 2
T: 2 2
R: 16 16
S: 10.6667 16.0000
L: 24 16
D: 1 1
I: 32 32
N: 32 32
Q: 0 0
V: 0 0
RxQueue: 0 0
TxQueue: 0 0
G.INP Framing: 0 0
G.INP lookback: 0 0
RRC bits: 0 0
Counters
Bearer 0
OHF: 0 0
OHFErr: 0 0
RS: 32496 10537
RSCorr: 78 2
RSUnCorr: 0 0
Bearer 1
OHF: 311 314
OHFErr: 0 0
RS: 1494 1257
RSCorr: 0 0
RSUnCorr: 0 0

Retransmit Counters
rtx_tx: 12929012 1449808
rtx_c: 9340925 471698
rtx_uc: 14553236 339655

G.INP Counters
LEFTRS: 14176 5078
minEFTR: 14249 3799
errFreeBits: 962808844 307417316

Bearer 0
HEC: 0 0
OCD: 0 0
LCD: 0 0
Total Cells: 110076 0
Data Cells: 12 0
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 0

Bearer 1
HEC: 0 0
OCD: 0 0
LCD: 0 0
Total Cells: 0 0
Data Cells: 0 0
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 0

ES: 8780 2895
SES: 4824 1128
UAS: 5264 4542
AS: 6

Bearer 0
INP: 43.00 41.00
INPRein: 0.00 0.00
delay: 0 0
PER: 0.00 0.00
OR: 0.01 0.01
AgR: 14300.07 3824.78

Bearer 1
INP: 2.50 4.00
INPRein: 2.50 4.00
delay: 0 0
PER: 16.06 16.06
OR: 47.81 31.87
AgR: 47.81 31.87

Bitswap: 0/0 0/0

Total time = 1 days 12 hours 42 min 7 sec
FEC: 170318269 6765874
CRC: 240965 11314
ES: 8780 2895
SES: 4824 1128
UAS: 5264 4542
LOS: 33 105
LOF: 285 105
LOM: 76 0
Latest 15 minutes time = 12 min 7 sec
FEC: 129946 25476
CRC: 7446 75
ES: 154 48
SES: 130 37
UAS: 411 324
LOS: 6 6
LOF: 54 6
LOM: 12 0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC: 27055 86
CRC: 2140 0
ES: 38 0
SES: 37 0
UAS: 846 810
LOS: 1 0
LOF: 8 0
LOM: 0 0
Latest 1 day time = 12 hours 42 min 7 sec
FEC: 13729701 2064466
CRC: 149599 3500
ES: 5505 950
SES: 2952 336
UAS: 4187 3766
LOS: 19 38
LOF: 168 38
LOM: 33 0
Previous 1 day time = 24 hours 0 sec
FEC: 32849 25437
CRC: 950 130
ES: 38 41
SES: 17 23
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Since Link time = 5 sec
FEC: 78 2
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
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Re: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.
« Reply #482 on: June 07, 2015, 09:49:34 AM »

I had a resync earlier this morning:

My upstream interleaving is now off and upstream INP is zero, so looks like this has been rolled out to my exchange (ESGIF). Unfortunately this has taken place when my main disturber is offline and my SNRM artificially high, so I have now a higher sync speed from 58708 Kbps to 67709 Kbps. It will be interesting to see what happens when their modem is switched back on. ;D
Disturbers modem reappeared last night and my SNRM dropped by over 3 and the attainable accordingly. However the line appears to be performing just as it was? I had expected to see a resync overnight, but I am still enjoying the faster rate. Should I just leave it be for now? I donít see any huge numbers in the stats to worry about, at least to my untrained eye. G.INP must be doing its stuff!  ;D
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Re: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.
« Reply #483 on: June 07, 2015, 02:52:01 PM »

Surely such a huge margin loss can't be normal. Could you have a split pair in some cable section with your disturber/neighbour maybe?
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Re: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.
« Reply #484 on: June 07, 2015, 04:15:09 PM »

I have no idea. :no: This first happened back in February not long after I was connected when I suspect someone else had taken up FTTC (I was the first connection), but I've no idea who they are. My immediate neighbours don't have FTTC, but I'd love to know who it is as they appear to switch their modem off quite frequently. ::)
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Re: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.
« Reply #485 on: June 07, 2015, 04:39:40 PM »

  I can confirm that such a large amount of crosstalk from a disturber is quite possible.  One neighbor can do the same to me but they almost never power down. I have the consolation that I do the same to them - we did a test taking it in turns to power down.  My regular off every night disturber gives about 1.4db.  Two others give similar amounts but are only off when on hols.
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Re: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.
« Reply #486 on: June 07, 2015, 05:05:00 PM »

I have the consolation that I do the same to them
I'd never considered that! It is a comforting feeling. :lol:
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Re: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.
« Reply #487 on: June 08, 2015, 07:55:50 PM »

When using Kitz's MK1 G.INP rollout date it was on the 12th Jan 2015 and it was not enable on my line until the 25th of March 2015 so had to wait 2 months and 13 days.

So have worked out that the MK2 G.INP rollout will be enabled on this line around about the 8th of August 2015 thats close to 1 out of 4 seasons.

Also noticed on MDWS (current online users) there are 20 users with the G.INP MK2 and 29 users still on G.INP MK1.
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Re: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.
« Reply #488 on: June 09, 2015, 07:42:41 PM »

Hi does anyone know if the G.INP rollout has been started again on ECI cabs there is a guy in the Plusnet forums (i'm with plusnet as well) that says he was G.INP enabled earlier this month, he said he's confirmed that with plusnet in another thread and states he is on a ECI cab,  i did say that ECI cabs haven't been Enabled since the huawei issues started but he says he's sure he is on a ECI cab. 

I'm on a ECI cab with a ECI modem myself so i have been keeping an eye on the whole G.INP issue to see how the ECI side of things is going to pan out and as far as i can find ECI cabs haven't started to be enabled again to be honest i'm not sure if they were to begin with,  have openreach started again if so they have kept that very quiet, i dunno what's going on.

here's the link to the page in the G.INP thread on the plusnet forum that it's mentioned, http://community.plus.net/forum/index.php/topic,136287.976.html

       

   

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Re: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.
« Reply #489 on: June 09, 2015, 07:52:15 PM »

The question to ask is, which exchange?
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Re: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.
« Reply #490 on: June 09, 2015, 07:54:33 PM »

I think they somehow are mistaken as bets are the ECI Dslam's don't support G.inp and probably don't support vectoring
either, Re the mistaken plusnet customer
is this the plusnet response they where referring to ??http://community.plus.net/forum/index.php/topic,140216.msg1236754.html#msg1236754
« Last Edit: June 09, 2015, 08:02:48 PM by tommy45 »
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Re: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.
« Reply #491 on: June 09, 2015, 08:13:50 PM »

Hi tommy45 yeah that's the plusnet response he is referring to, I have asked in the plusnet G.INP thread if he can post what exchange he is on maybe someone here can get info.

like you i believe he is mistaken some how either by what type of cab he is actually on or he has mistakenly been told by Plusnet that he is G.INP enabled, that said with the way openreach operate i wouldn't put it past them to do something without mentioning it so maybe he is i dunno.     

Edit... Ok he has responded and has stated that he is on the Fordingbridge 01425 exchange, not sure if that is of any help to any one. 

hmm looking on code look his area is ECI only at the moment so he is on a ECI cab, so that leaves either a plusnet mistake or he is G.INP enabled and something is going on not sure which.
« Last Edit: June 09, 2015, 08:24:35 PM by Terranova667 »
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Re: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.
« Reply #492 on: June 09, 2015, 08:21:50 PM »

It would be interesting to know where they were and to ensure that the DLM hasn't intervened for some other reason.

Correspondence I've had from someone pretty high up in Openreach and someone who should know stated not, he did stipulate that there were some ECI test cabs, but then again we are aware of those - such as Martlesham Heath.

However, there is an implication that the situation may be reviewed when Mk2 G.INP has been rolled out to all the Huawei cabs.

They havent yet finished rolling out Mk2 G.INP - judging from MDWS they are probably somewhere around half-way.  It does not make sense for them to start enabling the ECI's until at least the Huaweis are complete. 
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Re: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.
« Reply #493 on: June 09, 2015, 08:34:21 PM »

Just noticed the reply.  Yep Fordingham are all ECI's.

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n another thread PN have informed me that my ECI cab was G-INP enabled earlier this month, resulting in the inevitable speed drop & ping increase.

So I looked back

Quote from: Matthew Wheeler
@tijara33

Your line is also on G.INP at the moment. Are the ping times still higher?

../snip/..

@tijara33

Openreach are rolling a fix for the G.INP issues although I can't commend on when it will be done as I believe it's a gradual roll-out.

Hang on a mo..   so tijara was supposedly g.inp enabled at the beginning of May on the old g.inp settings. 

So BT rolled out G.INP mk1 on an ECI cab at the beginning of May ??????????
Beginning of May the ECI's were definitely suspended...  as were Huaweis at that particular time. 
We know for a fact that Openreach stopped applying G.INP at the end of March and G.INP was NOT applied to any new lines/profiles/after DLM resets until at least the 26th of May.
 
Something definitely does not add up.    :-X
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Re: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.
« Reply #494 on: June 09, 2015, 08:41:42 PM »

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he has mistakenly been told by Plusnet that he is G.INP enabled,

I wonder what Plusnet are seeing to make that statement.   I know for a fact that Matthew has told several people they weren't G.INP enabled when in fact they were. :-\
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