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Author Topic: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.  (Read 506942 times)

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G.INP - BT rollout 2015.
« on: April 06, 2015, 02:47:54 PM »
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Re: G.INP
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2015, 02:56:39 PM »
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Re: G.INP
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2015, 04:42:29 PM »
« Last Edit: May 19, 2015, 09:41:37 PM by kitz »
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Re: G.INP
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2015, 08:16:08 PM »
G.INP Observations when it goes wrong.




G.INP Benefits.

The vast majority of people on a Huawei cabinet and those using a HG612 or other G.INP compatible modem have seen no issues.
Most have seen significant improvements to their line which include increased speed, removal of interleaving, less errors.

There is a dedicated thread - G.INP enabled Stats Comparison where members of the kitz community have been posting comparison stats and observations about their line.
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Re: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2015, 07:57:30 AM »
Nice one :)
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Re: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2015, 08:34:41 AM »
With not expecting FTTC until the back end of this year I was aware that there was some issue but hadn't been following it. Suddenly activity started at the beginning of February and my install is 14th April so I was starting to look at this. I'd resigned my self to wading through the many convoluted topics around this subject so the publishing of this brilliant summary could not have come at a better time for me. Thank you Kitz!

Would I be correct to assume new Huawei cabinets will be installed with this already enabled?

When the engineer comes I guess I should be making a fuss if he provides me with a ECI modem!
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Re: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2015, 09:41:02 AM »
Are you sure you're getting a Huawei cabinet?
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Re: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2015, 01:29:03 PM »
Quote from: Dray on April 07, 2015, 09:41:02 AM
Are you sure you're getting a Huawei cabinet?

I think so - just taken a quick snap from outside our house - see attached.
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Re: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2015, 01:38:51 PM »
Aye - looks like the type of cab that houses the Huawei MA5603T. 
Watch for that lock type to be changed ;)

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When the engineer comes I guess I should be making a fuss if he provides me with a ECI modem!
Yes.   But you may not get anywhere.   Unfortunately for a good while some area's have only been supplying ECI modems.   I know going back to when mine was installed that the contractor only had ECI modems on their vans.   Its been like that for a while and one of the OR guys has confirmed that their supplies dept only has ECI's in stock - this is the NW so not sure if it will be different down south, but just making you aware that he genuinely may not have a HG612 available.

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Re: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2015, 02:10:36 PM »
Talking of 'shades of grey'  :blush: I believe there are 2 types of G.Vector. Maybe ASUS are saying it supports one but not the other?
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Re: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2015, 02:42:27 PM »
I was referring to "system" and "board" but maybe not.
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Re: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2015, 02:44:20 PM »
I emailed one of the software developers @ TP-Link today and ask if there's any chance that g.inp could be upgraded purely as software update.   It does seem to be that the Lantiq's are predominantly the modems affected by this.   However its not gone unnoticed that the Fritzbox also has the same chipset, so perhaps something could be done.   If I get any info I'll pass it on.
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Re: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2015, 03:33:17 PM »
this post was a good idea, as I suspect many only check the forums and not your main site.
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Re: G.INP
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2015, 04:27:06 PM »
Quote from: kitz on April 06, 2015, 04:42:29 PM
The only solution we can offer is:
1). Wait and see if BT give an official statement and announce if they are able to release yet another f/w update for the ECI modems.
2). Purchase a compatible modem/router.


Modem Routers showing increased latency and lower sync

The first three on the list all contain a similar Lantiq VRX-268 modem chipsets and all seem to be in a similar situation.

BT Openreach ECI modem
BT Homehub 5 Type A (Software version 4.7.5.1.83.8.204)
TP Link TD W-9980


*Unconfirmed if all models

going back to your solutions is it a case of a firmware upgrade to enable g.inp on the incompatible modems listed as the firmware can only control the hardware and if the hardware lacks the capability then no firmware would be able get g.inp running  :-\
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Re: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2015, 06:50:38 PM »
Quote from: Dray on April 07, 2015, 02:42:27 PM
I was referring to "system" and "board" but maybe not.

Sorry, now I understand. Completely missed what you meant.

Do you mean:
As per the links below at the higher scale ?
Whether 'Vectoring' is implemented at the Card or Full DSLAM level for the lower scale ?

This :
http://www2.alcatel-lucent.com/techzine/boosting-vdsl2-bit-rates-with-vectoring/
then this:
http://www2.alcatel-lucent.com/techzine/vdsl2-vectoring-in-a-multi-operator-environment-separating-fact-from-fiction/
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