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Author Topic: Combined VDSL2 Modem Routers  (Read 268662 times)

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Re: Combined VDSL2 Modem Routers
« Reply #60 on: February 10, 2015, 01:15:49 PM »

Apologies if this is in the wrong place but do any of the combined units allow a monitoring program to track the fibre stats (noise margin, speeds, etc.)

The Billion and Zyxel models are supported by DSLstats, and some of them are supported by HG612_Stats, but I'm not sure of the details.
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Re: Combined VDSL2 Modem Routers
« Reply #61 on: February 10, 2015, 01:26:11 PM »

Thanks
The question was because I will - hopefully - be going fibre in the next month or so and I would like to have a decent router - the Billion 8800NL seems a good cheapish router
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Re: Combined VDSL2 Modem Routers
« Reply #62 on: February 10, 2015, 08:00:26 PM »

The Billion 8800NL is indeed supported by HG612 Modem Stats, very shortly to be updated to accommodate G.INP technology that appears to be being trialled or rolled out in phases.
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Re: Combined VDSL2 Modem Routers
« Reply #63 on: February 10, 2015, 08:21:54 PM »

I assume that unlike vectoring the G.INP is modem independent
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Re: Combined VDSL2 Modem Routers
« Reply #64 on: February 13, 2015, 07:25:47 PM »

@tacitus - reviews on sites such as amazon etc made by purchasers of the router.

OK thanks Kitz. Looking at those reviews the problems are with the wireless aspect and most look related to earlier versions of the firmware.  Since I use a separate wireless access point which from past experience works better for me, I'm not particularly bothered about that aspect.  Apart from that the 2760 looks worth a punt as I've used Draytek in the past with good results.
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Re: Combined VDSL2 Modem Routers
« Reply #65 on: February 15, 2015, 01:07:48 PM »

I assume that unlike vectoring the G.INP is modem independent

AIUI, Its a software construct in the way the modem handles the data stream.   Therefore both the modem and dslam need to be capable of g.inp.   
Kind of like, its no good if the interleaver in the dslam sends data to a modem whose de-interleaver doesnt understand the algorithm used..  they both need to be able to speak and understand the same language. 
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Re: Combined VDSL2 Modem Routers
« Reply #66 on: March 05, 2015, 07:30:38 AM »

An interesting topic which seems to be asked many times weekly.

A recent item out now is the the FritzBox 3490 at 130. I read this has the same internals as the 7490 but without the DECT/telephony stuff. It must be an upgrade to the 3390 unit.

There was meant to be a Billion 8900AX unit out 1st quarter of 2015 which had 3x external antenna unlike the 8800 unit. It seems to have gone quiet on that front and Billion said they will not be releasing it for now but release an update in due course.
« Last Edit: March 05, 2015, 07:35:12 AM by michty_me »
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Re: Combined VDSL2 Modem Routers
« Reply #67 on: April 01, 2015, 12:09:03 PM »

Hi

External antennas on routers remind me of the move years ago to 2G and digital mobile phones that used internal antennas, where because the customer expected an aerial, they added fake ones. :P

Given that virtually every device we have that connects to the router has an internal antenna, it seems odd to worry about the router having internal ones.

Yes if external you can move them about a bit and favour perhaps one direction slightly over the other, but given all the beam forming tricks used now, having more precisely arranged and fixed internal antennas is probably better, hence the proliferation of them, or course it's cheaper as well.

External antennas on routers are little more than a stripped but of of coax wire, whereas internal antennas can be more elaborate and specialised for the job.

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Re: Combined VDSL2 Modem Routers
« Reply #68 on: April 10, 2015, 02:31:32 PM »

Hello
Looking at Fritz!box currently, and won't the following also work in UK

7360
3390
3490

The reason I am asking is I am thinking about getting the 3390 as my current billion 8200n I feel isn't too great.
Unless someone can advise me of a better combo
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Re: Combined VDSL2 Modem Routers
« Reply #69 on: April 10, 2015, 03:34:54 PM »

Useful info (if you 'do foreign' or use google translate) on the 3390 here including confirmation that it uses the same Lantiq XWAY VRX288 chip as the 7490 and a screenshot showing G.INP status so definitely should be OK:
http://www.hwupgrade.it/forum/showthread.php?t=2621831
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Re: Combined VDSL2 Modem Routers
« Reply #70 on: April 19, 2015, 09:39:34 AM »

I spotted yet another ADSL/VDSL combo yesterday....

http://www.kikatek.com/P458816/ZXHN-H168N-ZTE-ZXHN-H168N-Advanced-VDSL2?source=NL:1386767104

Low price, but don't know what chipset it uses, and can't find any user reviews.
Its also available on Amazon.

« Last Edit: April 19, 2015, 09:43:42 AM by jack21 »
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Re: Combined VDSL2 Modem Routers
« Reply #71 on: April 19, 2015, 11:20:18 AM »

I cant find any chipset info or reviews either.  But there is something a little bit strange. I went to the manufacturers site here
(Warning it's in China, its slow & it crashed my browser twice).

http://enterprise.zte.com.cn/en/products/network_lnfrastructure/cpe/broadband/201312/t20131209_414437.html

The ZXHN H168N looks nothing like and more like the ZXHN H298N

http://enterprise.zte.com.cn/en/products/network_lnfrastructure/cpe/broadband/201404/t20140418_422573.html


There are some documents available, but as its now crashed firefox for the 3rd 4th time whilst waiting for stuff to download Im giving up for now  :(
« Last Edit: April 19, 2015, 11:22:41 AM by kitz »
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Re: Combined VDSL2 Modem Routers
« Reply #72 on: April 19, 2015, 03:22:01 PM »

  The images show seem to vary for H168N but I think the one on the kikatek page is the usual one.  I found a Turkish firmware and that shows that it is Broadcom based and 63168 or 63268 dsl side.  I tried a quick google search to see if there is evidence of telnet access but I only found that other ZTE modems have access so it is a possibility.
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Re: Combined VDSL2 Modem Routers
« Reply #73 on: April 23, 2015, 01:50:51 AM »

New Netgear D6400 out now support VDSL2 http://www.broadbandbuyer.com/products/21672-netgear-d6400-100uks/

sadly not enough specs information of VDSL2 support?
« Last Edit: April 23, 2015, 01:56:29 AM by adslmax »
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Re: Combined VDSL2 Modem Routers
« Reply #74 on: April 23, 2015, 08:41:34 AM »

New Netgear D6400 out now support VDSL2 http://www.broadbandbuyer.com/products/21672-netgear-d6400-100uks/

sadly not enough specs information of VDSL2 support?

Hi

It's a Broadcom chipset and software stack so will support G.INP and vectoring.

It's a big old box though, more an advertisement hoarding for Netgear with the illuminated logo.  ;D

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