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Author Topic: G.INP enabled Stats Comparison  (Read 100005 times)

Bald_Eagle1

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Re: G.INP enabled Stats Comparison
« Reply #180 on: March 29, 2015, 01:53:25 PM »

That montage needs to be read in conjunction with the other one from the same period.

As still quite a bit goes on using Bearer 0, such as RSCorr etc., now that Interleaving has been applied (at low depths), it might be useful if you could post it (or even better (for me), a zipped copy of your modem_stats.log for say the last 4 days).

See the attached examples from my connection.



Ultimately, I'd like to combine all the relevant individual graphs into a single montage, but I'm still not quite sure exactly what data is worth plotting & what isn't.


EDIT:

BTW, it looks like you haven't updated the graphpd.exe program yet (& maybe also some of the others?).
The current version should be 5.0.0.5

The program updates can be done via the GUI.




« Last Edit: March 29, 2015, 01:59:07 PM by Bald_Eagle1 »
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WWWombat

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Re: G.INP enabled Stats Comparison
« Reply #181 on: March 29, 2015, 06:27:54 PM »

I updated graphpd earlier today, but I'm not sure whether I did it before or after I created those graphs.

Here are the new graphs, including the other one this time  :-[

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WWWombat

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Re: G.INP enabled Stats Comparison
« Reply #182 on: March 29, 2015, 06:48:12 PM »

This snippet of the modem-stats logfile is only 2 days worth, but I needed to chop it that much so it would fit as an attachment.

If you want more, from before or after, just ask...
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adslmax

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Re: G.INP enabled Stats Comparison
« Reply #183 on: March 29, 2015, 07:06:15 PM »

I notice the ping are reduced from 12ms to 9ms now on FTTC (G.INP) after 1 day using London server
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NewtronStar

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Re: G.INP enabled Stats Comparison
« Reply #184 on: March 30, 2015, 10:17:51 PM »

The stats after G.INP has been enable on this line for just under a week it's most definitely helping my line during the noisey evening time from REIN & SHINE and the RFI effects on errors is being held at bay by FEC though still the DS SNRM does it own thing  :giggle:

G.INP is definitely recommend for the average noisey line on FTTC
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xreyuk

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Re: G.INP enabled Stats Comparison
« Reply #185 on: March 31, 2015, 12:44:19 AM »

It's definitely helping my line, a hell of a lot.

I was at a 44Mbps sync speed (exactly, almost like I was banded) with a 5.4dB SNRM. I would get around 9ES per hour with this, including up in the 30-40 seconds per hour mark in peak times.

Since the G.INP has been enabled we're still at 44Mbps exactly (again, like we've been banded) however it's now a 8.5dB SNRM, with 1 ES/day and 3 CRCs per day.

Made up, and hopefully DLM will kick in soon and remove the banding and raise the speeds.
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adslmax

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Re: G.INP enabled Stats Comparison
« Reply #186 on: April 01, 2015, 03:49:20 PM »

Not happy with G.INP now :(

Because DLM has increasing ping now as the Billion haven't resync at all since last Saturday!  Ping now increasing from 12ms to 16ms just before 1pm  :no: :no: :no:

What the hell going on? See my BQM below

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Re: G.INP enabled Stats Comparison
« Reply #187 on: April 01, 2015, 03:56:18 PM »

if the modem hasnt lost sync then likely its a routing change between tbb and plusnet. although I dont see it on my graph.
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adslmax

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Re: G.INP enabled Stats Comparison
« Reply #188 on: April 01, 2015, 04:02:08 PM »

Before bbc.co.uk ping was 10ms and now 13ms (I have checked the billion router. It's haven't lost the sync or anything changed at all. Nothing)

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation.  All rights reserved.

C:\Windows\System32>ping bbc.co.uk

Pinging bbc.co.uk [212.58.244.20] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 212.58.244.20: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=55
Reply from 212.58.244.20: bytes=32 time=14ms TTL=55
Reply from 212.58.244.20: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=55
Reply from 212.58.244.20: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=55

Ping statistics for 212.58.244.20:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 13ms, Maximum = 14ms, Average = 13ms


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NewtronStar

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Re: G.INP enabled Stats Comparison
« Reply #189 on: April 01, 2015, 05:04:59 PM »

Before bbc.co.uk ping was 10ms and now 13ms (I have checked the billion router. It's haven't lost the sync or anything changed at all. Nothing)

I am not a ping expert but 13ms sounds quite good to me, TBH my BT ISP line has never gone below 25ms when it was on the strange fastpath profile and when it was interleaved an now the G.INP profile just sit's at 25ms, so this must be down to the BT ISP route.
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Re: G.INP enabled Stats Comparison
« Reply #190 on: April 01, 2015, 05:30:51 PM »

My latest billion stats:

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adsl info --stats
adsl: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Last Retrain Reason:    0
Last initialization procedure status:   0
Max:    Upstream rate = 35881 Kbps, Downstream rate = 105573 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 20000 Kbps, Downstream rate = 79999 Kbps
Bearer: 1, Upstream rate = 0 Kbps, Downstream rate = 0 Kbps
Link Power State:       L0
Mode:                   VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile:          Profile 17a
TPS-TC:                 PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis:                U:ON /D:ON
Line Status:            No Defect
Training Status:        Showtime
                Down            Up
SNR (dB):        12.3            16.3
Attn(dB):        11.3            0.0
Pwr(dBm):        12.5           -1.3

                        VDSL2 framing
                        Bearer 0
MSGc:           -6              -6
B:              130             97
M:              1               1
T:              0               0
R:              8               8
S:              0.0518          0.1554
L:              21468           5457
D:              16              8
I:              139             106
N:              139             106
Q:              16              8
V:              14              2
RxQueue:                57              39
TxQueue:                19              13
G.INP Framing:          18              18
G.INP lookback:         19              13
RRC bits:               24              24
                        Bearer 1
MSGc:           186             58
B:              0               0
M:              2               2
T:              2               2
R:              16              16
S:              5.3333          16.0000
L:              48              16
D:              3               1
I:              32              32
N:              32              32
Q:              0               0
V:              0               0
RxQueue:                0               0
TxQueue:                0               0
G.INP Framing:          0               0
G.INP lookback:         0               0
RRC bits:               0               0

                        Counters
                        Bearer 0
OHF:            0               0
OHFErr:         0               0
RS:             2716152320              3038525
RSCorr:         96522           35037
RSUnCorr:       0               0
                        Bearer 1
OHF:            23054942                80053
OHFErr:         0               0
RS:             276659300               2400587
RSCorr:         57              140
RSUnCorr:       0               0

                        Retransmit Counters
rtx_tx:         1700            824
rtx_c:          1693            791
rtx_uc:         0               0

                        G.INP Counters
LEFTRS:         40              10
minEFTR:        79999           19991
errFreeBits:    451844219               114854581

                        Bearer 0
HEC:            0               0
OCD:            0               0
LCD:            0               0
Total Cells:    1137280766              0
Data Cells:     595978910               0
Drop Cells:     0
Bit Errors:     0               0

                        Bearer 1
HEC:            0               0
OCD:            0               0
LCD:            0               0
Total Cells:    0               0
Data Cells:     0               0
Drop Cells:     0
Bit Errors:     0               0

ES:             0               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
AS:             370380

                        Bearer 0
INP:            46.00           47.00
INPRein:        0.00            0.00
delay:          0               0
PER:            0.00            0.00
OR:             0.01            0.01
AgR:            80614.82        20102.08

                        Bearer 1
INP:            4.00            4.00
INPRein:        4.00            4.00
delay:          3               0
PER:            16.06           16.06
OR:             95.62           31.87
AgR:            95.62   31.87

Bitswap:        594/594         1046/1046

Total time = 4 days 6 hours 53 min 0 sec
FEC:            96522           35037
CRC:            0               0
ES:             0               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Latest 15 minutes time = 8 min 0 sec
FEC:            16              23
CRC:            0               0
ES:             0               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC:            297             295
CRC:            0               0
ES:             0               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Latest 1 day time = 6 hours 53 min 0 sec
FEC:            7587            1748
CRC:            0               0
ES:             0               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Previous 1 day time = 24 hours 0 sec
FEC:            50973           12702
CRC:            0               0
ES:             0               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Since Link time = 4 days 6 hours 52 min 59 sec
FEC:            96522           35037
CRC:            0               0
ES:             0               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
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Re: G.INP enabled Stats Comparison
« Reply #191 on: April 01, 2015, 05:33:39 PM »

Before bbc.co.uk ping was 10ms and now 13ms (I have checked the billion router. It's haven't lost the sync or anything changed at all. Nothing)

I am not a ping expert but 13ms sounds quite good to me

With respect, this is not helpful and is the position most seem to adopt. 10 to 13 is like, 30% increase? How would you like to lose 30% of your bandwidth? Gamers don't care about bandwidth. We use very little of it but latency, is hugely important.

I suspect we're not naive enough to believe 1ms less makes us pro gamers but when serialisation, encapsulation and switching delays have been accounted for, every extra millisecond represents a suboptimal path and that is just as frustrating to the geek inside as a loss of bandwidth.

Sorry for ranting :D
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NewtronStar

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Re: G.INP enabled Stats Comparison
« Reply #192 on: April 01, 2015, 07:03:23 PM »

Sorry for ranting :D

I am a Gamer and 25ms makes no difference to my online gaming experience i would take your rant and stuff it up into the games hosting servers arse if 1ms makes all the difference to your gaming experience  ;) the issue must be on the hosting site.
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Re: G.INP enabled Stats Comparison
« Reply #193 on: April 01, 2015, 08:08:04 PM »

If you were as bad at games as me, you'd cry about ping too :D
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WWWombat

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Re: G.INP enabled Stats Comparison
« Reply #194 on: April 01, 2015, 08:20:43 PM »

if the modem hasnt lost sync then likely its a routing change between tbb and plusnet. although I dont see it on my graph.

This, or a new PPP session has plonked max on a different gateway. I've definitely seen 3ms differences between gateways.
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