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NewtronStar

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Re: A little excitement in the roseway household
« Reply #75 on: September 09, 2014, 08:27:56 PM »

I've just ordered my FTTC upgrade, and the planned date is 25 September, although this may change.

Were you able to get any estimated line speeds from the ISP during the order process ?
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Re: A little excitement in the roseway household
« Reply #76 on: September 09, 2014, 08:44:11 PM »

So this evening I took a walk along to my cabinet and stuck my ear by the vents, and was rewarded by a humming sound. I came back home and ordered the upgrade, and it was accepted. :dance:


Sounds very promisng.

I hope that was a very short walk, meaning you'll get great speeds.

Do you know where to get a connection stats monitoring program from?  ;)

It would be interesting to see how your connection fares from possibly being the very first to be connected & as more users become connected over the coming months.

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Re: A little excitement in the roseway household
« Reply #77 on: September 09, 2014, 09:14:27 PM »

Were you able to get any estimated line speeds from the ISP during the order process ?

The estimate was ~65 Mbps.

I hope that was a very short walk, meaning you'll get great speeds.

Do you know where to get a connection stats monitoring program from?  ;)

It would be interesting to see how your connection fares from possibly being the very first to be connected & as more users become connected over the coming months.

Yes, it was a short walk, about 200 metres.

I have heard about these monitoring programs, but I don't know much about them.

I'm very probably the first one to order on my cab, but I may not be the first to get installed, because the first available day wasn't possible for me. I took the next day, so one or two might get there before me.


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Re: A little excitement in the roseway household
« Reply #78 on: September 09, 2014, 10:10:20 PM »

A few quick questions from me.  ;)

Have you already migrated away from TalkTalk and now have a Plusnet ADSL2+ service?
If so, what happened with your telephone number? Was it a problem for it to be "returned to donor"?
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Re: A little excitement in the roseway household
« Reply #79 on: September 09, 2014, 10:39:28 PM »

Yes, I've moved from TT to Plusnet ADSL2+. It happened on August 29th. The telephone number was "returned to donor" without any issues.
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Re: A little excitement in the roseway household
« Reply #80 on: September 09, 2014, 10:43:10 PM »

A few quick questions from me.  ;)

Have you already migrated away from TalkTalk and now have a Plusnet ADSL2+ service?

That is interesting when I moved from TT ADSL Max (IP Stream) to BT ADSL Max during the 2 week switch over to VDSL2 my ADSL Max sync rose by 2 Mbps (4Mbps with TT and 6 Mbps with BT)  ;)
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Re: A little excitement in the roseway household
« Reply #81 on: September 09, 2014, 10:52:48 PM »

Yes, I've moved from TT to Plusnet ADSL2+. It happened on August 29th. The telephone number was "returned to donor" without any issues.

Ah, I see. Thank you. One final question -- was there any significant "down time" (for either telephony or broadband services)?
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Re: A little excitement in the roseway household
« Reply #82 on: September 09, 2014, 11:27:01 PM »

Yes, I had no internet connection for most of the day of the changeover, and no telephone until ~ 15:00. The telephone switch was supposed to take place in the afternoon, but TalkTalk switched off my telephone service at about 03:00, so I woke up with no telephone and no internet.

The physical reconnection of the telephone line took place as scheduled at ~15:00, and I got a text message to say that the broadband changeover was complete at ~ 21:00. It may have been ready earlier, but Plusnet ask you not to connect the modem/router until you receive the notification that it's ready.
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Re: A little excitement in the roseway household
« Reply #83 on: September 09, 2014, 11:50:26 PM »

Yay exciting :thumbs:

At 200m you should get the full 80/20 :)
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Re: A little excitement in the roseway household
« Reply #84 on: September 10, 2014, 11:17:56 AM »

Could Eric's low estimate be because PN use the impacted rate for their estimates?
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Re: A little excitement in the roseway household
« Reply #85 on: September 10, 2014, 12:32:29 PM »

Possibly..  My estimate from the BTw checker before I got FTTC said 'Up to 62.6' Mbps
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Re: A little excitement in the roseway household
« Reply #86 on: September 10, 2014, 04:36:36 PM »

if its direct line routing and decent cabling you should be a comfy 80/20.

Possible caveats I guess are.

Been unlucky on the crosstalk lottery, but you should hopefully not have to worry about this in early days of service.  Bear in mind I only held onto my 80+ attainable for 3 weeks :( and I was first on cabinet but I am probably one of the most unluckiest people in that regard.  Even if this is the case tho it should still blow anything adsl can do out the water.
Having bad cabling like ali or thin copper may reduce speeds over the distance.
Possibility of indirect line routing.
Also distance from exchange to cabinet is a factor, it affects adsl power cutback, on my line its pretty brutal whilst kitz has hardly any as she is close to exchange, I estimated on my line its around 10-18mbit of lost sync speed for adsl power cutback.  apparently tho its sort of mid to longish e-sides that suffer the most, if the e-side is really long the power cut back eases of again.

You should be good for an easy 80/20 tho.
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Re: A little excitement in the roseway household
« Reply #87 on: September 10, 2014, 04:40:08 PM »

if its direct line routing and decent cabling you should be a comfy 80/20.

Possible caveats I guess are.

Been unlucky on the crosstalk lottery, but you should hopefully not have to worry about this in early days of service.  Bear in mind I only held onto my 80+ attainable for 3 weeks :( and I was first on cabinet but I am probably one of the most unluckiest people in that regard.  Even if this is the case tho it should still blow anything adsl can do out the water.
Having bad cabling like ali or thin copper may reduce speeds over the distance.
Possibility of indirect line routing.
Also distance from exchange to cabinet is a factor, it affects adsl power cutback, on my line its pretty brutal whilst kitz has hardly any as she is close to exchange, I estimated on my line its around 10-18mbit of lost sync speed for adsl power cutback.  apparently tho its sort of mid to longish e-sides that suffer the most, if the e-side is really long the power cut back eases of again.

You should be good for an easy 80/20 tho.

Your estimate makes me guess approx 300-400m for actual line length.

Openreach support (yes they do exist although normally only for isp's) told me my line was just over 400m (I think cant find the email now), but today I was told its about 220m.

Possibly..  My estimate from the BTw checker before I got FTTC said 'Up to 62.6' Mbps

haha :0 yeah mine was 73 plusnet sign stage and 65.9 when I signed to BT infinity. These estimates I think try to take into account heavy crosstalk.  Then later when an areas has enough customers I think they then feed live data into the system so the estimates change.
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Re: A little excitement in the roseway household
« Reply #88 on: September 10, 2014, 06:49:12 PM »

The BTW checker estimates my speeds as:

Clean:   Down 69.5 - 80, Up 20 - 20
Impacted: Down 58.4 - 80, Up 19 - 20
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Re: A little excitement in the roseway household
« Reply #89 on: September 10, 2014, 09:15:12 PM »

Eric your going to spend less time waiting for your downloads to complete (11 times faster) if the host server is playing ball, it's going to improve your Internet productivity experience and I don't care what anyone says you can't do smooth HD streaming with 5Mbps well you can if you like the buffering wheel popping up every couple of minutes.
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