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Author Topic: High performance Openreach FTTP 900 options?  (Read 12427 times)

bogof

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Re: High performance Openreach FTTP 900 options?
« Reply #45 on: October 15, 2022, 10:48:31 AM »

Since I rejoined AAISP a couple of years ago, there has been maybe a few unplanned issues on the LNS's on all that time, it happens but its not frequent or even common, planned work also isnt frequent or common and on planned work you can choose the hour of your outage.

So nothing to worry about there, I also have spent time on the FTTP LNS and was stable.
Thanks, that's re-assuring to hear.
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EC300

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Re: High performance Openreach FTTP 900 options?
« Reply #46 on: October 20, 2022, 10:47:49 AM »

Well just had another drop with AAISP.  https://aastatus.net/42476

Not sure if this related to the fault they said was fixed or something outside of their control this time as routing to the BBC seems to now be going all over the place so this may be an issue elsewhere, i.e a fibre break.

Can't seem to get more than 4 days up time at the moment  ::)
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Re: High performance Openreach FTTP 900 options?
« Reply #47 on: October 20, 2022, 11:02:52 AM »

Interesting, considering:
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1  vt1.cor2.lond2.ptn.zen.net.uk (51.148.72.24)  5.518 ms  6.041 ms  5.378 ms
 2  lag-9.p2.ixn-lon.zen.net.uk (51.148.73.208)  6.696 ms  6.083 ms  5.696 ms
 3  lag-2.br1.ixn-lon.zen.net.uk (51.148.73.195)  6.335 ms  6.449 ms  6.650 ms
 4  195.66.225.91 (195.66.225.91)  6.317 ms  6.426 ms  5.344 ms
 5  151.101.128.81 (151.101.128.81)  6.493 ms  5.787 ms  5.359 ms

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1  l2tp.thn.aa.net.uk (90.155.53.19)  29.575 ms  38.323 ms  34.990 ms
 2  k-aimless.thn.aa.net.uk (90.155.53.101)  42.985 ms  33.282 ms  24.500 ms
 3  195.66.225.91 (195.66.225.91)  33.489 ms  22.244 ms  27.492 ms
 4  151.101.128.81 (151.101.128.81)  20.995 ms  31.767 ms  23.995 ms
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EC300

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Re: High performance Openreach FTTP 900 options?
« Reply #48 on: October 20, 2022, 11:13:07 AM »

The routing seems to have sorted itself out now, I'm getting:

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Tracing route to bbc.co.uk [2a04:4e42:600::81]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  pfSense.localdomain [2001:8b0:xxxx]
  2     8 ms     8 ms     8 ms  x.witless.thn.aa.net.uk [2001:8b0:0:53::133]
  3     8 ms     8 ms     8 ms  k-aimless.thn.aa.net.uk [2001:8b0:0:53::101]
  4     9 ms     8 ms     8 ms  2001:7f8:4::d361:1
  5     9 ms     8 ms     8 ms  2a04:4e42:600::81

I usually sit on y.witless which is around 1ms less in latency for me, but when it dropped I came back up on X. 
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bogof

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Re: High performance Openreach FTTP 900 options?
« Reply #49 on: October 20, 2022, 01:11:54 PM »

Ho-hum...  I'm "looking forward" going live on Thurs next week...
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EC300

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Re: High performance Openreach FTTP 900 options?
« Reply #50 on: October 20, 2022, 01:37:23 PM »

Ho-hum...  I'm "looking forward" going live on Thurs next week...

They have identified (another) a bug in the LNS code that caused the LNS to crash so a fix is going up soon.  It does all feel experimental at the moment.  Fingers crossed no more bugs. :fingers:
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Re: High performance Openreach FTTP 900 options?
« Reply #51 on: October 20, 2022, 05:52:48 PM »

Maybe talk to andrew about it. AA will always tell you what’s going on, and (officially!) no bull$$it.
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bogof

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Re: High performance Openreach FTTP 900 options?
« Reply #52 on: October 27, 2022, 09:07:57 AM »

Connection to AAISP has gone live.

Headline latency slightly worse than Zen for London gateways (7ms vs 4-5ms), but obviously no Manchester lottery.  Throughput not quite there with default login details, around 750-800Mbps.  Changing to the test login, hits line rates in excess of anything I've seen before (930Mbps+), across most speedtest servers.  Looks like my "normal" login is going to one of the older gormless LNS, which is I think unexpected for FTTP900.  The test- login puts me on b-doubtless.  I've already got in touch with AAISP, so I'll see what they say.  Appart from anything else, I doubt other residents of s.gormless will appreciate me doing FTTP900 speed tests!

Most notable improvement at the moment is that my IPSEC site to site VPN between my office and home has more than doubled in SMB throughput across the link, was 4-5MB/sec, now hitting 10MB/sec.  That's an awesome result, and well worth it.  I was seeing the 5MB/sec cap on VPN even when on Zen's BTW network.
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Re: High performance Openreach FTTP 900 options?
« Reply #53 on: October 27, 2022, 10:18:49 AM »

Yeah it looks like you not automatically been routed to the new FTTP LNS.
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bogof

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Re: High performance Openreach FTTP 900 options?
« Reply #54 on: October 27, 2022, 10:29:00 AM »

Yeah it looks like you not automatically been routed to the new FTTP LNS.
Yup, the AAISP techs got back to me very quickly and did something so I'm now on z-witless, with quite spectacular results.  This is to Zen's speedtest server, to rub salt in the wound... lol



Impressed so far with the experience.  Amazing amount of configurability on the service.   
I wonder if me asking them to send their router (which I planned to have just for backup and fault finding purposes) had anything to do with the LNS issue, or whether it was something else. 
« Last Edit: October 27, 2022, 10:41:34 AM by bogof »
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Chrysalis

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Re: High performance Openreach FTTP 900 options?
« Reply #55 on: October 27, 2022, 10:38:59 AM »

Looking good, glad it worked out.

Is a shame Zen have the issues they got, but hopefully they can work it out in time.
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EC300

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Re: High performance Openreach FTTP 900 options?
« Reply #56 on: October 27, 2022, 11:31:57 AM »

Connection to AAISP has gone live.

Headline latency slightly worse than Zen for London gateways (7ms vs 4-5ms), but obviously no Manchester lottery.  Throughput not quite there with default login details, around 750-800Mbps.  Changing to the test login, hits line rates in excess of anything I've seen before (930Mbps+), across most speedtest servers.  Looks like my "normal" login is going to one of the older gormless LNS, which is I think unexpected for FTTP900.  The test- login puts me on b-doubtless.  I've already got in touch with AAISP, so I'll see what they say.  Appart from anything else, I doubt other residents of s.gormless will appreciate me doing FTTP900 speed tests!

Most notable improvement at the moment is that my IPSEC site to site VPN between my office and home has more than doubled in SMB throughput across the link, was 4-5MB/sec, now hitting 10MB/sec.  That's an awesome result, and well worth it.  I was seeing the 5MB/sec cap on VPN even when on Zen's BTW network.

This seems to be a bug in their system as the exact same happened to me and I had to raise a ticket but sorted really quickly.
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bogof

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Re: High performance Openreach FTTP 900 options?
« Reply #57 on: October 27, 2022, 12:43:59 PM »

This seems to be a bug in their system as the exact same happened to me and I had to raise a ticket but sorted really quickly.
Support blamed half term, so I assume there is a manual process involved, and Manuel is looking after the kids :)
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bogof

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Re: High performance Openreach FTTP 900 options?
« Reply #58 on: October 27, 2022, 01:37:50 PM »

First time for everything.  I've rarely seen a speedtest.net server result that wasn't believable, but I'm having a little trouble swallowing this from the unlikely candidate of Mauritius Telecoms:


Then again, it does look like the speedtest server may be in the cupboard next door...  :lol:
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root@Home-Dream-Machine-SE:/ssd1/test# traceroute speedtestlondon.telecom.mu.prod.hosts.ooklaserver.net
traceroute to speedtestlondon.telecom.mu.prod.hosts.ooklaserver.net (197.227.5.218), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  z.witless.thn.aa.net.uk (90.155.53.135)  7.346 ms  7.286 ms  7.254 ms
 2  k-aimless.thn.aa.net.uk (90.155.53.101)  7.337 ms  7.360 ms  7.309 ms
 3  195.66.227.71 (195.66.227.71)  8.119 ms  8.045 ms  7.843 ms
 4  197.227.5.218 (197.227.5.218)  7.504 ms  7.478 ms  7.517 ms

The upstream is oddly inflated though, which leads me to smell a bit of a rat.  Nearly everywhere else is pegged at 110Mbps up, which is common with my old connection.  Several different clients (appleTV, MacOS native, Linux command line) all report within a Mbps or so of each other.
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EC300

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Re: High performance Openreach FTTP 900 options?
« Reply #59 on: October 27, 2022, 02:16:19 PM »

Mauritius Telecom has always tested well, although on AAISP it didn't test too well as it was routed halfway around the planet.  Andrew @ AAISP picked up on a post I put on Thinkbroadband and changed the routing, and it would seem its in the same data centre!

My test results are below, I lose about 1% on download as I've set that up in the control panel to only get 99% of speed (this helps to reserve a bit for VoIP packets), so download not too far away from yours, and upload, well that is quite high.



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1  y.witless.thn.aa.net.uk (90.155.53.134)  6.650 ms  7.101 ms  7.134 ms
2  k-aimless.thn.aa.net.uk (90.155.53.101)  7.099 ms  7.163 ms  7.140 ms
3  195.66.227.71 (195.66.227.71)  7.715 ms  7.665 ms  7.920 ms
4  197.227.5.218 (197.227.5.218)  7.433 ms  7.266 ms  7.453 ms
« Last Edit: October 27, 2022, 02:26:11 PM by EC300 »
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