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Author Topic: General election 2019: Labour pledges free broadband for all  (Read 11643 times)

dee.jay

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Re: General election 2019: Labour pledges free broadband for all
« Reply #30 on: November 15, 2019, 03:28:31 PM »

I just want Brexit over with and not have quite a healthy and invested market (in my opinion) essentially decimated at gov's fingertips. I think all parties are a bit sh*te, but at least I know Labour is very much out of the running for me in this election - they stepped too far away from targeting the working class and seem to be going too far towards the direction of national debt and appealing to the economically inactive voters. It sorta ties in to the other thread where this dreamland is very much the ideal for younger voters - those a bit wet behind the ears, especially 16/17 year olds no doubt (not saying some adults also don't live in this reality, however).

This will be why they suddenly wanted to rush through 16/17 year old voters for this election too. It's all about stopping Brexit, because it goes against what the "establishment" want
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Re: General election 2019: Labour pledges free broadband for all
« Reply #31 on: November 15, 2019, 04:44:45 PM »

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Re: General election 2019: Labour pledges free broadband for all
« Reply #32 on: November 15, 2019, 04:56:29 PM »

Jesus guys, are you really going to make me add News Articles to the ignored boards list?
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Re: General election 2019: Labour pledges free broadband for all
« Reply #33 on: November 15, 2019, 05:09:54 PM »

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Re: General election 2019: Labour pledges free broadband for all
« Reply #34 on: November 15, 2019, 05:19:35 PM »

Absolutely, politics is what has triggered this news piece in the first place!
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Re: General election 2019: Labour pledges free broadband for all
« Reply #35 on: November 15, 2019, 05:21:23 PM »

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Re: General election 2019: Labour pledges free broadband for all
« Reply #36 on: November 15, 2019, 05:30:12 PM »

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Re: General election 2019: Labour pledges free broadband for all
« Reply #37 on: November 15, 2019, 07:38:18 PM »

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Re: General election 2019: Labour pledges free broadband for all
« Reply #38 on: November 15, 2019, 07:45:45 PM »

Yes probably a sensible move, haha!
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Re: General election 2019: Labour pledges free broadband for all
« Reply #39 on: November 15, 2019, 10:02:44 PM »

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Re: General election 2019: Labour pledges free broadband for all
« Reply #40 on: November 15, 2019, 10:12:49 PM »

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Re: General election 2019: Labour pledges free broadband for all
« Reply #41 on: November 15, 2019, 10:58:02 PM »

Well, we haven't had a 2nd referendum on Brexit, so there should be hope from that. A lot of Labour voters these days seem to not understand the unaffordable consequences that you mention...

Its not necessarily unaffordable if you're using joined-up thinking rather than just doing something and ignoring how it impacts everything else.

Are Labour using joined-up thinking here?  I'm honestly not sure.

On the one hand I think nationalising infrastructure is GOOD.  Splitting off telecoms, water, gas, electricity, has made a complete mess of those things.

On the other hand, I don't think having just one national ISP is a great idea due to the many issues we have discussed - not least our privacy and content filtering potential.  I also think its bad timing, with Openreach FINALLY deciding to push forward with Fibre First.  I think it will impact me personally in that my exchange being due to start being worked on any time now, will probably now get delayed until after the election.  If Labour do get in I'd imagine it would be delayed even more, due to the uncertainty of how things are going to proceed.

There are just far too many pressing issues the government would need to deal with BEFORE taking over Openreach, and the potential legal challenges they will get from that.  Its likely to delay FTTP roll out longer than just leaving Openreach to their own devices at this point.
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Re: General election 2019: Labour pledges free broadband for all
« Reply #42 on: November 16, 2019, 03:25:34 AM »

Looks like Openreach is getting ready for Labour's free service for all. :lol:

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Re: General election 2019: Labour pledges free broadband for all
« Reply #43 on: November 16, 2019, 07:38:40 AM »

On the one hand I think nationalising infrastructure is GOOD.  Splitting off telecoms, water, gas, electricity, has made a complete mess of those things.

Perhaps you're too young to remember the seventies, and the complete mess the nationally run industries were in, I was still a young child but have vauge memories. I asked someone yesterday who is a lot old than me, and he said they were a complete mess.

Just remember the NHS is basically a government run company, do you want that repeated across all our utilities?

I think nationalised services are run with a different mindset, everything goes well over budget because people just think it's only the governments money.
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Re: General election 2019: Labour pledges free broadband for all
« Reply #44 on: November 16, 2019, 08:33:58 AM »

Perhaps you're too young to remember

Perhaps you are too old to realise you are being condescending to the only participant of this thread to offer any kind of reasonable debate?
« Last Edit: November 16, 2019, 08:36:04 AM by johnson »
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