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Author Topic: General election 2019: Labour pledges free broadband for all  (Read 5952 times)

Bowdon

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Re: General election 2019: Labour pledges free broadband for all
« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2019, 10:29:24 AM »

From the ISPreview article;

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The new entity, British Broadband, will have two arms: British Digital Infrastructure (BDI), which will roll-out the public network, and the UK ISP British Broadband Service (BBS), which will deliver free broadband.

So effectively we'd all be going through the government to access the Internet  :'( Type any wrongthink :police: and  :-X
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Re: General election 2019: Labour pledges free broadband for all
« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2019, 10:47:20 AM »

Don’t take it for granted that this’ll die the death, BT share price is already falling, so some people must think it may happen.  :o

When companies like BT crash it’s not just private investors that get burned.   Private pension funds, company pension  funds, and other investments, are all likely to have holdings in such companies.  Same applies to Apple, Microsoft etc, all are used by pension funds and others. 

Tempting to think... if these folks did get elected... now the precedents been set with the Brexit referendum, can the powers that be simply decide to ignore the election on the basis that ‘people voted incorrectly’, and refuse to let them take over?
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Re: General election 2019: Labour pledges free broadband for all
« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2019, 11:13:38 AM »

There's all sort of rational arguments one could make about this, but at the end of the day the idea can be summed up in one word:

BONKERS
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Re: General election 2019: Labour pledges free broadband for all
« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2019, 11:31:57 AM »

From the ISPreview article;

So effectively we'd all be going through the government to access the Internet  :'( Type any wrongthink :police: and  :-X

Even China would be impressed
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Re: General election 2019: Labour pledges free broadband for all
« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2019, 12:12:23 PM »

Talk Talk have postponed the sale of Fibre Nation over this.

https://news.sky.com/story/labour-broadband-pledge-stalls-talktalk-sale-11861708

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Re: General election 2019: Labour pledges free broadband for all
« Reply #21 on: November 15, 2019, 01:08:18 PM »

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Investigatory_Powers_Act_2016

Yep, there's your starting point. Take that, amplify it a few times, then you'll be close.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8A29y7YRiZs

They'll censor it, alright. DO NOT BE FOOLED.
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Re: General election 2019: Labour pledges free broadband for all
« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2019, 01:31:03 PM »

Don’t take it for granted that this’ll die the death, BT share price is already falling, so some people must think it may happen.  :o

When companies like BT crash it’s not just private investors that get burned.   Private pension funds, company pension  funds, and other investments, are all likely to have holdings in such companies.  Same applies to Apple, Microsoft etc, all are used by pension funds and others. 

Tempting to think... if these folks did get elected... now the precedents been set with the Brexit referendum, can the powers that be simply decide to ignore the election on the basis that ‘people voted incorrectly’, and refuse to let them take over?

The Brexit referendum was none-binding so CAN be ignored, in fact its the only reason it wasn't written off as illegal.  A General Election IS binding!

Talk Talk have postponed the sale of Fibre Nation over this.

https://news.sky.com/story/labour-broadband-pledge-stalls-talktalk-sale-11861708

I'd imagine Openreach will put the brakes on all their investment until after the election now. :(

Honestly there was a time where re-nationalising made sense, but I feel that has passed.  This is only likely to delay fibre roll out even further as all current plans will be thrown in the bin if Labour get in and they'd have bigger things to worry about in the short term.
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Re: General election 2019: Labour pledges free broadband for all
« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2019, 02:42:49 PM »

I sincerely hope Labour get decimated in this election, I really do. Socialism is out of date and has no place in modern society. Nationalisation of everything is clearly not the answer.
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Re: General election 2019: Labour pledges free broadband for all
« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2019, 02:44:43 PM »

The Brexit referendum was none-binding so CAN be ignored

I suspect the clever lawyers who drew that conclusion could concoct a similar justification for ignoring an election, if they put their minds to it.   Nobody that I knew thought, when they voted, that it was non binding any more than an election is non binding.
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Re: General election 2019: Labour pledges free broadband for all
« Reply #25 on: November 15, 2019, 02:48:44 PM »

S'alright, we'll be holding another election on December 13th, 14th and 15th until the correct result comes out.
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Re: General election 2019: Labour pledges free broadband for all
« Reply #26 on: November 15, 2019, 02:58:12 PM »

Oh boy, doesn't the political state of the country just seem to be a downward spiral? There's the uncertainty of Brexit and future investment in the UK, and it keeps getting delayed over and over again. Now there is a potential that private companies may be put off investing into telecommunications because of Labour wanting to nationalise broadband. I sometimes wonder if I slept and woke up on some crazy alternative timeline.
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Re: General election 2019: Labour pledges free broadband for all
« Reply #27 on: November 15, 2019, 03:00:07 PM »

Oh boy, doesn't the political state of the country just seem to be a downward spiral? There's the uncertainty of Brexit and future investment in the UK, and it keeps getting delayed over and over again. Now there is a potential that private companies may be put off investing into telecommunications because of Labour wanting to nationalise broadband. I sometimes wonder if I slept and woke up on some crazy alternative timeline.

And what's worse, people seem to relate to these idiots and want to vote them in, too!
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Re: General election 2019: Labour pledges free broadband for all
« Reply #28 on: November 15, 2019, 03:07:22 PM »

I sometimes wonder if I slept and woke up on some crazy alternative timeline.

That one gets my vote. ;D
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Re: General election 2019: Labour pledges free broadband for all
« Reply #29 on: November 15, 2019, 03:10:05 PM »

And what's worse, people seem to relate to these idiots and want to vote them in, too!
I just want Brexit over with and not have quite a healthy and invested market (in my opinion) essentially decimated at gov's fingertips. I think all parties are a bit sh*te, but at least I know Labour is very much out of the running for me in this election - they stepped too far away from targeting the working class and seem to be going too far towards the direction of national debt and appealing to the economically inactive voters. It sorta ties in to the other thread where this dreamland is very much the ideal for younger voters - those a bit wet behind the ears, especially 16/17 year olds no doubt (not saying some adults also don't live in this reality, however).
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