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Author Topic: Investigating Billion BiPAC 8800NL Line Stats  (Read 38604 times)

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Re: Investigating Billion BiPAC 8800NL Line Stats
« Reply #135 on: February 15, 2016, 01:02:19 AM »

The best thing you can do is check your internal wiring is in tip top condition

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Re: Investigating Billion BiPAC 8800NL Line Stats
« Reply #136 on: February 15, 2016, 08:43:28 AM »

Just over four hours worth of data != twenty four hours worth of data.  ::)

I have five panes defined -- SNRM, CRCs per minute, FECs per minute, QLN and Hlog.

There is the usual micro-jitter visible on the SNRM plot but the brevity of data capture currently does not allow any observation of possible macro-variations per 24 hour cycle.

The CRCs per minute is a flat-line at zero.

The FECs per minute shows peaks for the DS, with one topping out at 28,300.

QLN is a little "spiky".

Hlog is fine.

Currently there is nothing of any concern.  :)

That sounds great! I'll keep MDWS running for as long as possible now to see what goes on on my line. It's rather interesting!

hlog is fine so no bridge taps in the copper loop etc  :)

re qln I think B*cat has put it in the nicest possible way  "QLN is a little spiky".
Your SNR per tone is a direct reflection of your QLN...  basically the line is 'noisy', but I dont want you to get paranoid about it and think that its something that BT can fix.

Theres a few spots which could be crosstalk centered around tones at appx 1450 and 1700.  You cant do anything about that.
You also appear to have a fair bit of what may be background mush.  ie noise from EMI/radio/electronics/atmosphere.
The best thing you can do is check your internal wiring is in tip top condition.     TBH its not really bothering you atm as you are only on the 40Mb product and not pushing the line to its limits.   

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How do you mean "makes a quick exit qln/snr pertone"?

Chasing the cause of noise is like falling down the rabbit hole.   Its not affecting you atm so aside from there's no harm in checking your internal wiring - leave it alone and forget it. 


I currently don't have any internal wiring except for the wiring from the outside in to the MK3 SSFP. There are other extension sockets in the house but they were disconnected several years ago.

The best thing you can do is check your internal wiring is in tip top condition

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Thanks for the links. I will have a look.
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Re: Investigating Billion BiPAC 8800NL Line Stats
« Reply #137 on: February 15, 2016, 04:00:00 PM »

Just an update! My MDWS ID is now WGrimsley. I've created a new account with the help of tbailey because the old account had data issues.
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Re: Investigating Billion BiPAC 8800NL Line Stats
« Reply #138 on: February 15, 2016, 04:48:30 PM »

@kitz, I was going to ask. If my line has now been up for just over 2 days, how long do you think it will be until the next deintervention from DLM? A few days?
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Re: Investigating Billion BiPAC 8800NL Line Stats
« Reply #139 on: February 15, 2016, 05:42:04 PM »

@kitz, I was going to ask. If my line has now been up for just over 2 days, how long do you think it will be until the next deintervention from DLM? A few days?

What will you do differently if you either knew or didn't know when the next intervention will take place?
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Re: Investigating Billion BiPAC 8800NL Line Stats
« Reply #140 on: February 15, 2016, 05:51:30 PM »

@kitz, I was going to ask. If my line has now been up for just over 2 days, how long do you think it will be until the next deintervention from DLM? A few days?

What will you do differently if you either knew or didn't know when the next intervention will take place?

Nothing. I don't want to take your post the wrong way, but it seemed totally pointless.
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Re: Investigating Billion BiPAC 8800NL Line Stats
« Reply #141 on: February 15, 2016, 06:06:39 PM »

@kitz, I was going to ask. If my line has now been up for just over 2 days, how long do you think it will be until the next deintervention from DLM? A few days?

What will you do differently if you either knew or didn't know when the next intervention will take place?

Nothing. I don't want to take your post the wrong way, but it seemed totally pointless.

As did yours, hence my reply to it.
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Re: Investigating Billion BiPAC 8800NL Line Stats
« Reply #142 on: February 15, 2016, 06:09:45 PM »

Play nice now kitties!  ??? ;D ;D ;D

Love and peace
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Re: Investigating Billion BiPAC 8800NL Line Stats
« Reply #143 on: February 15, 2016, 06:15:18 PM »

As did yours, hence my reply to it.

I'm sorry? So, me asking a civil question about DLM is pointless? My word, get back on the BTCare Community Forum!
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Re: Investigating Billion BiPAC 8800NL Line Stats
« Reply #144 on: February 15, 2016, 06:19:44 PM »

If you wait until it happens you will know how long it will be. Speculating when it will it happen is a pointless exercise.
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Re: Investigating Billion BiPAC 8800NL Line Stats
« Reply #145 on: February 15, 2016, 06:46:36 PM »

If you wait until it happens you will know how long it will be. Speculating when it will it happen is a pointless exercise.

True. But, I was only asking if anyone knew what the answer may be... Guess what, no one did. So, I've learnt.
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Re: Investigating Billion BiPAC 8800NL Line Stats
« Reply #146 on: February 15, 2016, 06:53:52 PM »

The reversal process is the one area for which we know very little.
Theres been some observations, but that is all we have to go off and there are no hard facts

http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/DLM.htm#DLM_removal
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Re: Investigating Billion BiPAC 8800NL Line Stats
« Reply #147 on: February 15, 2016, 06:54:40 PM »

The reversal process is the one area for which we know very little.
Theres been some observations, but that is all we have to go off and there are no hard facts

http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/DLM.htm#DLM_removal

You see, there are people who can help. Thanks, kitz!
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Re: Investigating Billion BiPAC 8800NL Line Stats
« Reply #148 on: February 15, 2016, 07:31:29 PM »

I didn't really help.   I dont know, know one knows :(

I wish I knew the formula for the reversal process, but I couldnt find anything.   There were flowcharts showing steps, but nothing about timeframe.
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Re: Investigating Billion BiPAC 8800NL Line Stats
« Reply #149 on: February 15, 2016, 07:32:16 PM »

Normally the next action taken by the DLM with G.INP is to remove G.INP on the upstream and your US ES are non-existent on your ES graph, as for the capping could that be the last DLM intervention before the sync returns to normal  :-\
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