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Author Topic: Investigating Billion BiPAC 8800NL Line Stats  (Read 38740 times)

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Re: Investigating Billion BiPAC 8800NL Line Stats
« Reply #120 on: February 13, 2016, 06:36:00 PM »

Aren't all the error counts just occurring when it re-trains though? I don't think the exact number of whatever type of errors is of great significance if they occur as the DSL drops.
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Re: Investigating Billion BiPAC 8800NL Line Stats
« Reply #121 on: February 14, 2016, 04:28:34 PM »

Aren't all the error counts just occurring when it re-trains though? I don't think the exact number of whatever type of errors is of great significance if they occur as the DSL drops.

Yes, I think they are.

Anyway, I've not had another DLM resync today - odd. So, whatever that DLM resync was yesterday was totally worthless because as kitz pointed out nothing changed on my line. I guess I'm going to have to wait a bit longer.
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Re: Investigating Billion BiPAC 8800NL Line Stats
« Reply #122 on: February 14, 2016, 05:19:39 PM »

We want to see graphs, get DSL Stats running and uploading so we can all share the fun and drama.
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Re: Investigating Billion BiPAC 8800NL Line Stats
« Reply #123 on: February 14, 2016, 06:04:49 PM »

We want to see graphs, get DSL Stats running and uploading so we can all share the fun and drama.

Alright then. I've started uploading. ::)
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Re: Investigating Billion BiPAC 8800NL Line Stats
« Reply #124 on: February 14, 2016, 06:14:44 PM »

MDWS user Grimers, I do believe.  ;)
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Re: Investigating Billion BiPAC 8800NL Line Stats
« Reply #125 on: February 14, 2016, 06:19:32 PM »

MDWS user Grimers, I do believe.  ;)

Hell yeah! One question, why is my Quiet Line graph not showing when it's ticked in DSLstats?
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Re: Investigating Billion BiPAC 8800NL Line Stats
« Reply #126 on: February 14, 2016, 06:30:02 PM »

One question, why is my Quiet Line graph not showing when it's ticked in DSLstats?

You have not been uploading data, consistently, for long enough. I forget what is the precise algorithm but by this time tomorrow both your QLN and Hlog plots will show the relevant data.

If you work through all the posts in Tony's thread (or at least the last few pages) I think you will find the information regarding the QLN and Hlog plots.
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Re: Investigating Billion BiPAC 8800NL Line Stats
« Reply #127 on: February 14, 2016, 08:52:17 PM »

Ok, so now I've had an email from Kitz and now no data is being uploaded what's this all about?
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Re: Investigating Billion BiPAC 8800NL Line Stats
« Reply #128 on: February 14, 2016, 08:55:29 PM »

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Ok, so now I've had an email from Kitz and now no data is being uploaded what's this all about?

Nothing to do with me.
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Re: Investigating Billion BiPAC 8800NL Line Stats
« Reply #129 on: February 14, 2016, 08:56:32 PM »

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Ok, so now I've had an email from Kitz and now no data is being uploaded what's this all about?

Nothing to do with me.

Don't worry, it's just an email regarding the 5 day data deletion notice.
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Re: Investigating Billion BiPAC 8800NL Line Stats
« Reply #130 on: February 14, 2016, 09:37:09 PM »

How is my line looking, btw?
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Re: Investigating Billion BiPAC 8800NL Line Stats
« Reply #131 on: February 14, 2016, 10:19:24 PM »

Ive had a look at your line stats, and for the period of time its been up then its looking perfectly fine and behaving well.
Your hlog looks good too.




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Re: Investigating Billion BiPAC 8800NL Line Stats
« Reply #132 on: February 14, 2016, 10:21:34 PM »

Ive had a look at your line stats, and for the period of time its been up then its looking perfectly fine and behaving well.
Your hlog looks good too.




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That's great! How do you mean "makes a quick exit qln/snr pertone"? LOL.
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Re: Investigating Billion BiPAC 8800NL Line Stats
« Reply #133 on: February 14, 2016, 10:24:31 PM »

Just over four hours worth of data != twenty four hours worth of data.  ::)

I have five panes defined -- SNRM, CRCs per minute, FECs per minute, QLN and Hlog.

There is the usual micro-jitter visible on the SNRM plot but the brevity of data capture currently does not allow any observation of possible macro-variations per 24 hour cycle.

The CRCs per minute is a flat-line at zero.

The FECs per minute shows peaks for the DS, with one topping out at 28,300.

QLN is a little "spiky".

Hlog is fine.

Currently there is nothing of any concern.  :)
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Re: Investigating Billion BiPAC 8800NL Line Stats
« Reply #134 on: February 14, 2016, 11:53:39 PM »

hlog is fine so no bridge taps in the copper loop etc  :)

re qln I think B*cat has put it in the nicest possible way  "QLN is a little spiky".
Your SNR per tone is a direct reflection of your QLN...  basically the line is 'noisy', but I dont want you to get paranoid about it and think that its something that BT can fix.

Theres a few spots which could be crosstalk centered around tones at appx 1450 and 1700.  You cant do anything about that.
You also appear to have a fair bit of what may be background mush.  ie noise from EMI/radio/electronics/atmosphere.
The best thing you can do is check your internal wiring is in tip top condition.     TBH its not really bothering you atm as you are only on the 40Mb product and not pushing the line to its limits.   

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How do you mean "makes a quick exit qln/snr pertone"?

Chasing the cause of noise is like falling down the rabbit hole.   Its not affecting you atm so aside from there's no harm in checking your internal wiring - leave it alone and forget it. 
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