>> everyone gets lumped together with the BT users as far as I understand it.
Youre running straight off MSiP and the colossus backbone out on to the internet - no "pipes" at all. Hence why I can tracert you via the RAS.
Ive seen too many people still think "pipes" rather than blocks of usage which is what prompted me to write that post in the first place.
From what I can suss BTw does all the charging from the RAS RADIUS logs.. and the ISP gets billed for what their customers use (in blocks). Although there must also be something monitoring traffic volume by ISP realm as it leaves colossus. Theres no lighting of pipes etc.. and when an ISP goes over their block - they have no option other than to pay for another chunk. Ive described it basically as PAYG for ISPs.
There are 2 types of RIN - standard and CBC... aside from iirc no max on standard - the major difference that I can see is that CBC RIN has:-
An option for BT Central Plus with Capacity Charging is to support the interfacing of
customer equipment located on a Broadband PoP site for use with BT Central Plus. This
equipment will be under the control of the Customer. This will allow the Customer to
develop amongst other things, feature rich services for their End Users and control their
bandwidth demands.
Any ellacoyaing would have to be done on each and every PoP in the UK, which means purchase of a lot of ellacoyas. hmmm how many are ellacoyas were BT meant to have bought a year or so ago?
Since PN dont have any where near that amount of ellacoyas then there isnt any way they can do, without becoming very integrated with BTr profiles. PN is billed for their own usage and things (for now at least) are being kept separate then it could be a while before PN customers on RIN see any shaping.
I dont forsee many other ISPs hopping on to the RIN network just yet either - Too many heavy peaktime users and it would cripple them because of the *have to purchase blocks*. They are either going to need a minimum of 22 ellacoyas? or pure PAYG traffic to make it work.