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Author Topic: 1000/220 Router Recommendations  (Read 1334 times)

dontasciime

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1000/220 Router Recommendations
« on: June 22, 2021, 10:50:44 PM »

Does anyone on here that has 1000/220  get 900+ Down on their router using cat5e or 6 and if so which model number?

I missed out on the Asus RT AX86u and 88u and even 82u Amazon deals in the last 2 days.

308/48 currently from Zen using Netgear Nighthawk R7000 with xwrt 384.11_2  with zen fibre 300

Due to have 900 regrade start today, tomorrow next 5 days etc  and see conflicting info for the r7000 max down on EWAN giga  some say 400/600 some say 945Mbps   I know from Lan over my network and netgear gs108 to either another  GS108 or dlink eqv I see 112 MB/s to 118 MB/s [896Mbps to 944Mbps] tx rates copying large ISO etc so was hoping this might be fine but I really should have bought the Asus RT AX82U  for £134 today from Amazon but when I finally decided just at last minute it was removed from my basket as it went off offer OOS etc
« Last Edit: June 23, 2021, 09:32:09 AM by dontasciime »
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Re: 1000/220 Router Recommendations
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2021, 01:29:08 PM »

Firstly, 1000/220 is the business package, if you are residential its 1000/110 and sold as 900/100.

LAN traffic does not pass over the router (the ethernet ports are on a switch built-in to the router, only traffic needing to pass to the WAN or the IP address of the router itself gets passed from that switch into the routers internal ethernet port) and any cable CAT5 or better handles Gigabit fine unless its defective.

Where the slowdowns occur is both in the CPU usage for the PPP connection to the ISP and the NAT (network address translation) that has to convert from multiple different LAN clients to a single WAN IP and keep track of where to send each response.  The NAT part gets exponentially more CPU intensive when you have QoS enabled, but its possible that is not necessary on such a fast connection.

As you've already ordered the service anyway, there's no point worrying about it yet.  Just do some tests one its live.
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Re: 1000/220 Router Recommendations
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2021, 05:19:28 PM »

1000/220 comes with a hefty £500+vat install fee. As above it's more a business tier.

1000/110 is far more common on residential packages, with a standard install fee.
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Re: 1000/220 Router Recommendations
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2021, 05:35:18 PM »

Ok

Although I only used 1000/220 as a basis so if 1000 was being delivered on X hardware for anyone gettting that 1000/220 service  what is that hardware they are using



Also having to wait yet another 5  working days now as the address now not being recognised in supplier systems.
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Re: 1000/220 Router Recommendations
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2021, 06:49:11 PM »

Although I only used 1000/220 as a basis so if 1000 was being delivered on X hardware for anyone gettting that 1000/220 service  what is that hardware they are using
Like I said, I don't think there is any point in thinking about it yet.  Wait and see if your current setup works.

Also having to wait yet another 5  working days now as the address now not being recognised in supplier systems.
How can they not recognise your address when you already have the service and its just a regrade?  Weird.
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Re: 1000/220 Router Recommendations
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2021, 06:50:07 PM »

Exactly my reply to Zen.

I'm hoping this isn't part of  The 1000/220 lighting up may yet turn out to be a database error. I really hope not as I want the 900 service.
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Re: 1000/220 Router Recommendations
« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2021, 09:16:31 AM »

900 service was live just after midnight

Bt speed test early today wasn't so good at around 585 : ookla neither with just over 380 and upload of 58 so I'm ignoring these.

Steam download throughput was  maxed at 113.5MB/s  and basically stayed around this figure for the whole of the 50GB game install. So this pretty much saturated and fine.



The CPU on R7000 was pretty much at I'm giving her all she's got captain!

Temp of cpu is usually 66c and it raised to 68 for the duration of the 50GB download

Ideally I'd like to see the Asus RT AX86u Cpu usage for comparison to see if there is any headroom left on that Cpu as I do not know how long a 99% router CPU will last if always 99% although a 2 degree rise in temp for the duration of a 50GB download doesn't really appear that bad.



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Re: 1000/220 Router Recommendations
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2021, 09:54:35 AM »

Do you need wireless?

I'm a mikrotik user, if I had your speed I would pick up one of these in a heartbeat: https://mikrotik.com/product/rb4011igs_5hacq2hnd_in

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Re: 1000/220 Router Recommendations
« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2021, 11:27:35 AM »

Thanks.

I use wireless but I don't really care that much about it as I've got the whole house wired at cat5e for years now

Highest hardware I use is probably Ac  on a couple of lg g5 phones and maybe my htc one and the speed to them is fine for what I use them for.

Laptops have b/g/n and all wifi dongles I have, I may have  1 Ac but mostly n300 a couple of lite versions and I have no real use for anything wireless at above 10MB/s

There is a possibility I will be looking to see if that above is buyable in uk. I need whatever I choose to give open nat on 2 xboxes in use at the same time like my current setup has always been since using 2 xbox 360s with certain modem routers over the many years. I've bought more than 50. I've just binned some older belkin gear and even some never opened adsl modem/routers.
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Re: 1000/220 Router Recommendations
« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2021, 12:22:21 PM »

Version without wireless is here: https://mikrotik.com/product/rb4011igs_rm

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Re: 1000/220 Router Recommendations
« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2021, 12:28:30 PM »

Yeah I saw that but I'd always be buying wifi version as having wifi is important but not necessarily the speed* at which my wifi devices get data even though it is important to me if i will use them more frequently and then become reliant on them as I will want them to perform better -   eg  it is important if 80Mhz is in gear when It needs to be at least 160Mhz if I'm buying  something new. I see 1733 so that does indicate 160 but I'd need to check proper spec sheet and see interface regarding things like this first on anything new I buy.

Thanks again.

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Re: 1000/220 Router Recommendations
« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2021, 04:03:15 PM »

I use a Mikrotik hEX S on my 900/900 service and it does the job very well. Not sure if there is a WiFi version of this model.
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Re: 1000/220 Router Recommendations
« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2021, 06:14:46 PM »

Thanks. I couldn't see a wifi version of that one.

Still tempted by the RB4011iGS+5HacQ2HnD-IN above but can't be doing with CLI only, it does appears to have a webgui and other gui so I might but I have recall issues and eyesight is apalling these days as is typing so I don't really wanna go commandline route.

 
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Re: 1000/220 Router Recommendations
« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2021, 09:12:54 PM »

Ideally I'd like to see the Asus RT AX86u Cpu usage for comparison to see if there is any headroom left on that Cpu as I do not know how long a 99% router CPU will last if always 99% although a 2 degree rise in temp for the duration of a 50GB download doesn't really appear that bad.

I wouldn't expect the CPU load to make any significant difference at all to its longevity, unless it was hitting 90C+ or something.

The only catch with this is if you have a wired client hammering the CPU, it potentially will bottleneck WiFi as that uses a lot more CPU cycles.

Honestly unless you have real-world problems, I wouldn't worry about it.  No point throwing money at it during a silicon shortage, when in a year or two the price for a really good WiFi 6e router should have come down giving you even more headroom.
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Re: 1000/220 Router Recommendations
« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2021, 09:34:17 PM »

Thanks. I couldn't see a wifi version of that one.

Still tempted by the RB4011iGS+5HacQ2HnD-IN above but can't be doing with CLI only, it does appears to have a webgui and other gui so I might but I have recall issues and eyesight is apalling these days as is typing so I don't really wanna go commandline route.

Mikrotik have an app called winbox for administrating, the icon size is pretty decent.
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