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[AngryMonkey]

Hi,
It's been recommended I ditch my Asus DSL-ac68u due to some dodgy line stats with VDSL BT Infinity and replace with a more stable modem (ideally one which the various stats programmes such as DSLStats etc work with).

Suggestions appear to be
- Billion 8800NL R2
- ZyXEL VMG8924
- fritzbox 7490
- Huawei Echolife HG612

Questions:
1. Is there any clear recommendations on which one to get, or are all the above "good"?
2. I want to run constant stats from a 24/7 PC, so do any of them offer more stats/advanced VDSL tweaks than others?

Thanks,
AM.

[skyeci]

depending on your cab type and whether you want separate modem and router or all in one.. - do you know what cab type you are on? - if its a eci I would avoid the billion. I use a zyxel 8324 in bridge mode and this works fine for stats along and seems happy with my router on my eci. I have used the 8924, whilst good it gave me missing minutes on the stats. Some of the others on here who use it had no issues but that is why I went for the 8324 in bridge mode as we couldn't fix the missing minutes.

Find out your cab type then choose accordingly. If you are on huawei then you have plenty of options. Eci like me then its not so good.

see what the cab is  http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/cabinet-lookup.htm  and post back.

[AngryMonkey]

depending on your cab type

Hi, sorry should have said. I'm on a Huawei. I'm apparently about 1.2km from the cabinet. These are my current Asus stats:

xDSLmode=VDSL
outDiscards=4516
inDiscards=5822
outBytes=1636247783
inBytes=1652492428
outPkts=8575424
inPkts=17574261
CurrentProfiles=17a
UPBOKLE=19.9
TRELLISds=1
TRELLISus=1
ACTSNRMODEds=1
ACTSNRMODEus=1
ACTUALCE=640
SNRMpbds=5.0,5.1,N/A,N/A,N/A
SNRMpbus=5.7,5.8,5.8,N/A,N/A
LATNDown=17.7,52.9,82.8,N/A,N/A
LATNUp=4.0,39.9,60.3,N/A,N/A
SATNDown=33.3,53.3,N/A,N/A,N/A
SATNUp=4.0,40.1,60.9,N/A,N/A
fwVer= FwVer:5.5.2.3_A_A60901 HwVer:T14.F7_0.2

lineState=up
Opmode=ITU G.993.2(VDSL2)
SNRMarginDown=5.3 dB
AttenDown=17.7 dB
SNRMarginUp=5.8 dB
AttenUp=4.0 dB
DataRateDown=36389 kbps
PathModeDown=Interleaved
DataRateUp=9699 kbps
PathModeUp=FastPath
WanListMode=1
FECDown=16715425
FECUp=234
CRCDown=1003
CRCUp=56
HECDown=0
HECUp=0
ADSLUpTime=1 day, 12:47, 7 secs
ADSLActiveTime=0 min, 16 secs
PowerDown=11.5 dbm
PowerUp=5.7 dbm
ATURID=26005443434e0000
ATUCID=b5004244434da48c
FarEndVendorID=Broadcom
AttainUp=9699 kbps
AttainDown=46712 kbps
ShowtimeStart=16
TotalStart=31
ATURANSIRev=0
ATUCANSIRev=0
ATURANSIStd=0
ATUCANSIStd=0
TCM=On
InterleaveDepthDown=2685
InterleaveDepthUp=1
INPDown=1.1 symbols
INPUp=2.3 symbols
AdslStandard=VDSL2
AdslType=ANNEX_A
mtenStandard=G.dmt.bisplus (Annex L)

[skyeci]

well stats wise billion, zyxel all in ones will work fine for your cab type etc..  could even use hg612 if you have your own router.. 

8324 (2.4ghz),8924 (5ghz), (they will work bridge mode with your own router or as all in one)
8800nl (not so keen on the release 2 prefer version 1 myself) - again will work bridge mode or as all in one
not used fritz so can't comment
hg612 unlocked + router of your choice

still depends whether you want 2 or 1 box solution..

[AngryMonkey]

still depends whether you want 2 or 1 box solution..

Multiple box solution, so just the VDSL modem required, I already have Wifi all setup.

My setup is that the cable comes direct from the top of pole, into the loft straight into the back of the modem (no faceplate etc or phone connected), and the modem is used just for VDSL (it then has cat 6 out to a central switch with several WiFi access points around the property.

So for just the modem it looks like the 8800nl is a good choice, simple solution, has stats, decent ratings on here... but actually any of them would be ok?

[skyeci]

personally I would stick with Zyxel over the billion but for your cab billion should be ok.

If you have sorted your wifi and just needed the all in one (modem/router mode - ) and not bothered with its internal wifi then the 8324 if you can find one should be good. Just disable the wifi. 8800nl release 1 or 2 will do the same. Some of 8800nl r2 users on here did not rate it that highly - http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,18126.0.html

I liked the R1 but it did not like my eci cab..

[digitalnemesis]

ZyXEL VMG8924 should give highest sync.

[skyeci]

I saw same sync speeds on the 8324 and the 8924. I don't think he needs wifi from the all in one so might save money picking up and 8324 if poss - just a thought

[les-70]

  If you are happy with two boxes you may want to consider the HG612 modem with the Asus DSL-ac68u router as a low cost and very reliable option.

[j0hn]

As stated above, if it's just for a modem then there's no need to go for the ZyXEL 8924, the 8324 should do just fine. they are absolutely identical boxes apart from the addition of a 5ghz wifi card in the 8924. Obviously if you find them for the same price then why not get the 8924, but the 8324 should be cheaper.

The Huawei HG612 would also be a good option, as that is just a modem. There's no need to disable unwanted wifi features, no setting up to work in bridge mode. It's ready to go as soon as you flash the unlocked firmware, which is idiot proof. Make sure to get the newest model, which I believe to be the 3B. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong here.

I have no idea about the Fritzbox as I have never owned 1. All the others you have mentioned are Broadcom chipsets, the same as Huawei cabinets. They all have access to the Broadcom CLI and pretty much identical stats. The ZyXEL will probably be the hardest to source at a decent price. Ebay being the only place I could find 1 at a reasonable price.

[digitalnemesis]

On my line the VMG8924 consistently syncs 2Mbps+ higher than the HG612.

If you're going to use Asus DSL-ac68u as a router, then just get a modem such as this http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,17575.0.html

[roseway]

I can certainly recommend the VMG8324 in bridge mode. That's what I'm using now (Huawei cabinet) and of the various options it gives me the best combination of speed and error rate. Details of how to connect and configure it here: http://www.kitz.co.uk/routers/zyxel_VMG8324-B10A_bridge.htm

[AngryMonkey]

Great answers, thanks all!

I've ordered a the HG612 (3B), a VMG 8324 and a Billion 8800 (version 2 though, so hopes are not high). I'll test all 3 out vs the Asus and report back

Thanks,
Am

[GigabitEthernet]

How kind of you to do that. Will be very interested to see the results

[Chrysalis]

for most people the zyxel seems best, only me and less found the billion better for error rates.

Any of the 3 should be fine tho for stats collection and been compatible with openreach dslams, hg612, 8800nl and zyxel.

I would avoid the fritzbox.