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[NewtronStar]

any idea why ECI multicast CP are exempt from the removal of G.INP

[kitz]

the reason given was something along the lines of multicast lines benefit most from retransmission rather than traditional methods of error protection such as interleaving.

[npr]

The reason I removed the multi-cast info on May 1st was that npr who had BT-TV said that he had been rolled back,

WildBill also reported G.INP being disabled while having BT TV.
http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,17195.msg323406.html#msg323406

Anyone fancy my chances of getting it reinstated?
Or even BT support knowing what G.INP is. 

[skyeci]

Sky fibre pro certainly do not.....having spoken to them for some time over the last month (lost g.inp on the 8th april) they appear to be no wiser to what it even is..

[kitz]

Looks like WildBills was removed due to the engineer resetting DLM.   In the case of resets it doesn't look like it will be re-applied, which is why I said the other day, that I dont think ordering of BT-TV will get it re-instated.

I had a thought about yours, but atm I have very limited internet access and cant google anything (plus I expect to be kicked off soon), but I was wondering about their stress of multicast rather than TV services.  From memory there is something about minimum speeds for multicast services and which products you can get on it.  Do you have any of the umm  extra services or HD etc.  Also from memory your sync speed is lower than average..   just throwing ideas around re multicast/unicast until this connection fails.

[NewtronStar]

just throwing ideas around re multicast/unicast until this connection fails.

Your connection has gone skew whiff that needs a serious looking into we complain about losing 5 -10 Mbps but at least we can connect to the Internet.   

[WWWombat]

Aye, I'm prepared to believe the BTW information was somewhat out of date, especially with regard to multicast TV. However, it does help confirm that this status was true at some recent point.

I hadn't seen information on scale before.

[npr]

Hi Kitz,

No I don't have any extra services, just basic BT sports TV at SD.

Sync speeds are not great due to aluminium in the line, after g.inp has been removed I'm getting around 21Mbps down and 1.7 Mbps up which should be fine for SD multicast tv.

[RADDY1993]

Hi guys im new here and have become interested in G.inp and have noticed its not enabled on my line. I am connected to an ECI cab and was wondering if there is any chance of it being enabled.

[skyeci]

Hi
Probably not at the moment it would seem due to it mainly being removed/disabled over the last month apart from some of those who have bt tv services and still have it.

What modem/router are you using etc?

[RADDY1993]

Hi
Probably not at the moment it would seem due to it mainly being removed/disabled over the last month apart from some of those who have bt tv services and still have it.

What modem/router are you using etc?

Thanx for the speedy reply , I have a Huawei 612 running HW cfw B030SP08, also connected to that a Asus RT-AC66U with Merlin Firmware, my ISP is Sky Fibre 40/10. Below are some stats:

Stats recorded 19 May 2016 20:18:51

DSLAM/MSAN type:           IFTN:0xb206 / v0xb206
Modem/router firmware:     AnnexA version - A2pv6C038m.d24j
DSL mode:                  VDSL2 Profile 17a
Status:                    Showtime
Uptime:                    1 hours 8 min 45 sec
Resyncs:                   0 (since 19 May 2016 19:34:48)
         
            Downstream   Upstream
Line attenuation (dB):     23.0      0.0
Signal attenuation (dB):   Not available on VDSL2      
Connection speed (kbps):   30000      9995
SNR margin (dB):           6.3      6.3
Power (dBm):               6.4      6.3
Interleave depth:          1      1
INP:                       0      0
G.INP:                     Not enabled      Not enabled
Vectoring status:          5 (VECT_UNCONFIGURED)      

RSCorr/RS (%):             0.0001      0.0008
RSUnCorr/RS (%):           0.0000      0.0000
ES/hour:                   7.59      0

xdslcmd info --stats
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Retrain Reason:   0
Last initialization procedure status:   0
Max:   Upstream rate = 10534 Kbps, Downstream rate = 30348 Kbps
Bearer:   0, Upstream rate = 9995 Kbps, Downstream rate = 30000 Kbps

Link Power State:   L0
Mode:         VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile:      Profile 17a
TPS-TC:         PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis:      U:ON /D:ON
Line Status:      No Defect
Training Status:   Showtime
      Down      Up
SNR (dB):    6.2       6.3
Attn(dB):    23.0       0.0
Pwr(dBm):    6.4       6.3
         VDSL2 framing
         Bearer 0
MSGc:      26      219
B:      247      235
M:      1      1
T:      60      7
R:      6      16
S:      0.2629      0.7508
L:      7728      2717
D:      1      1
I:      254      255
N:      254      255
         Counters
         Bearer 0
OHF:      1011742      338733
OHFErr:      8      0
RS:      60689387      4156150
RSCorr:      35      4
RSUnCorr:   20      0

         Bearer 0
HEC:      21      0
OCD:      1      0
LCD:      1      0
Total Cells:   231020587      0
Data Cells:   156178      0
Drop Cells:   0
Bit Errors:   0      0

ES:      8      0
SES:      0      0
UAS:      25      25
AS:      4007

         Bearer 0
INP:      0.00      0.00
INPRein:   0.00      0.00
delay:      0      0
PER:      3.95      11.87
OR:      64.65      151.62
AgR:      30064.35   10146.45

Bitswap:   2952/2952      8/8

Total time = 1 hours 7 min 12 sec
FEC:      35      4
CRC:      8      0
ES:      8      0
SES:      0      0
UAS:      25      25
LOS:      0      0
LOF:      0      0
LOM:      0      0
Latest 15 minutes time = 7 min 12 sec
FEC:      6      0
CRC:      3      0
ES:      3      0
SES:      0      0
UAS:      0      0
LOS:      0      0
LOF:      0      0
LOM:      0      0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC:      7      4
CRC:      1      0
ES:      1      0
SES:      0      0
UAS:      0      0
LOS:      0      0
LOF:      0      0
LOM:      0      0
Latest 1 day time = 1 hours 7 min 12 sec
FEC:      35      4
CRC:      8      0
ES:      8      0
SES:      0      0
UAS:      25      25
LOS:      0      0
LOF:      0      0
LOM:      0      0
Previous 1 day time = 0 sec
FEC:      0      0
CRC:      0      0
ES:      0      0
SES:      0      0
UAS:      0      0
LOS:      0      0
LOF:      0      0
LOM:      0      0
Since Link time = 1 hours 6 min 45 sec
FEC:      35      4
CRC:      8      0
ES:      8      0
SES:      0      0
UAS:      0      0
LOS:      0      0
LOF:      0      0
LOM:      0      0
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[skyeci]

Like you being on sky I have tried to get information from them but they know nothing about g.inp.

Its unclear at the moment wether we will get it back and even if it does get sorted we dont know how long this will take..

Are you uploading to mydslstats?
Cheers

[RADDY1993]

Like you being on sky I have tried to get information from them but they know nothing about g.inp.

Its unclear at the moment wether we will get it back and even if it does get sorted we dont know how long this will take..

Are you uploading to mydslstats?
Cheers

No, how do i do that.

[broadstairs]

From the discussions I have had with TalkTalk it seems unlikely that any ISP was informed about G.INP by BTOR, and I believe they only found out when end users who are knowledgeable about it have complained. BTOR are a law unto themselves in my view as they own the connection from the end users house to the exchange and dont see why they should tell ISPs about any changes they make even if said ISPs end up fielding complaints. I dont believe BTOR will make any information available to ISPs about any past or future changes to what they own, be it Vectoring or G.FAST, we will all be left in the dark as will ISPs until such time as BTOR deem fit to tell anyone anything.

In my view another reason why something needs to be done about BTOR, there is not enough control or accountability while they are part of BT, I believe they need to be accountable to all ISPs not just the BT group. As it stands ISPs have no influence over BTOR.

Stuart

[Black Sheep]

They wouldn't if they split. Same result, but with no investment ............ we've been here many times before.