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Author Topic: I have G.INP on ECI  (Read 228483 times)

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Re: I have G.INP on ECI
« Reply #495 on: April 30, 2016, 07:50:48 PM »

Looking at it logical the adjustment is going to be made on the DLM side as G.INP seems to work fine, it's just a niggle but it must be the way the DLM assigns G.INP for each users line some are ok with it and others are not.

And it's good to see after the removal of ECI G.INP they don't go straight onto fastpath as this would make things worse interleaving is definitely the best way to start from.
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Re: I have G.INP on ECI
« Reply #496 on: April 30, 2016, 08:03:48 PM »

Mine went from g.inp (8th april) to default for 2 days then went to fastpath and has been since 10th april approx.

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Re: I have G.INP on ECI
« Reply #497 on: April 30, 2016, 08:59:14 PM »

The way I see it the DLM was assigning G.INP to all lines even if the end-users modem did not support it the DLM should have had an contingency plans to disable G.INP and move them onto either Interleaving or Fastpath that is why I think the ECI DLM needs more configuration parameters added.
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Re: I have G.INP on ECI
« Reply #498 on: April 30, 2016, 09:04:54 PM »

It may be a case of 3rd world coder syndrome
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Re: I have G.INP on ECI
« Reply #499 on: April 30, 2016, 09:05:54 PM »

I wonder if they are just doing a blanket removal from all lines regardless then with a bit of luck roll out mk2 at some point soon...fingers crossed. I had a better sync on g.inp and less errors so hope to see it again at some point.
Have found since swapping to the zyxel the ds sync has been faster than the 8800nl plus less errors since g.inp was disabled so my line/cab seems to prefer the zyxel. Used both in bridge mode only.

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Re: I have G.INP on ECI
« Reply #500 on: April 30, 2016, 09:22:29 PM »

But all VDSL2 modems are required to support downstream retransmission (G.INP) to comply with the mandatory requirements specified in BT SIN 498. And it's only downstream retransmission that was being enabled. There shouldn't be any devices which don't support downstream retransmission, so arguably they shouldn't have to support non-compliant devices.

Upstream retransmission is optional in SIN 498, which is why it is necessary for the DLM to be provided with data on if upstream retransmission is supported, and then only enable it if it is supported.
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Re: I have G.INP on ECI
« Reply #501 on: April 30, 2016, 10:01:43 PM »

Upstream retransmission is optional in SIN 498, which is why it is necessary for the DLM to be provided with data on if upstream retransmission is supported, and then only enable it if it is supported.

It was incompatible modems that caused all the fuss last year on huawie cabinet upstream & downstream so why would the eci be any different
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Re: I have G.INP on ECI
« Reply #502 on: April 30, 2016, 11:09:57 PM »

Mine went from g.inp (8th april) to default for 2 days then went to fastpath and has been since 10th april approx.

Cheers

That's good to hear, hopefully the same will happen to the rest of us.
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Re: I have G.INP on ECI
« Reply #503 on: May 01, 2016, 12:30:03 AM »

G.INP was removed from my ECI line just after 12pm.

That's despite having BT IPTV, I thought these lines were being spared the cull.

Information is 'may not be rolled back' as these they feel are the lines which would benefit most from g.inp rather than interleaving.
That was based on a decision made last Tues and before they started phase 2 roll-back.   Perhaps now that phase 2 is under way they have changed their minds and too many lines still affected.   :shrug2:
Because it is obviously an earlier decision, I may remove it from the main article, but it is something to bear in mind if someone still has it applied.
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Re: I have G.INP on ECI
« Reply #504 on: May 01, 2016, 12:31:40 AM »

I wonder if j0hn would care to introduce her/himself to us and if an employee (in any shape or form) of a BT Group plc company, quote her/his EIN?  :-\

Naw they're not anything BT.   Just someone making a first post troll.
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Re: I have G.INP on ECI
« Reply #505 on: May 01, 2016, 12:34:28 AM »

Naw they're not anything BT.   Just someone making a first post troll.

Please feel free to kick that post into the far corner of my litter tray . . .  ;)
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Re: I have G.INP on ECI
« Reply #506 on: May 01, 2016, 12:37:38 AM »

It was incompatible modems that caused all the fuss last year on huawie cabinet upstream & downstream so why would the eci be any different

ejs is correct.   Both the ECI modem and HH5A can support downstream g.inp only.  There is only one possible HH5A that Ive seen that may not be compatible and that is Dray's because it still has old f/w on.   Even then its not conclusive - without stats we are guessing. 


The ECI cabs are only doing downstream ReTX.   
2015 Mk2 g.inp removed upstream g.inp by default from the DLM during the Huawei cabs specifically to be compatible with the lantiq chip based modems. 
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Re: I have G.INP on ECI
« Reply #507 on: May 01, 2016, 01:14:19 AM »

I wonder if they are just doing a blanket removal from all lines regardless then with a bit of luck roll out mk2 at some point soon...fingers crossed. I had a better sync on g.inp and less errors so hope to see it again at some point.

The info is they are 'working hard with their vendor' (ECI) to find a permanent solution to re-enable retransmission.   
That to me sounds like firmware.  No idea if its for the cabs or modems though.
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Re: I have G.INP on ECI
« Reply #508 on: May 01, 2016, 01:21:03 AM »

I bow down on my knees and plead forgiveness to the god ejs for my SIN 498 for i am not worthy to receive your blessings  ;D
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Re: I have G.INP on ECI
« Reply #509 on: May 01, 2016, 02:01:06 AM »

Naw... no need to get down on your knees.   
If you're anything like me, since my accident last Nov and still healing.. then it would take too long to get back up again.  :D
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