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Author Topic: Friend's Slow FTTC Speed  (Read 8663 times)

William Grimsley

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Friend's Slow FTTC Speed
« on: March 05, 2016, 07:17:50 PM »

Hi everyone,

Before I go on, I have permission on behalf of my friend to post this screenshot and luckily it has no personal information so it's fine, anyway.

Anyway, as you can see my friend is getting a very slow "capped" speed for his line length which as you can see below, is not very long at all. Can anyone help to see if he should ring BT to organise an engineer visit?

Many thanks!

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Re: Friend's Slow FTTC Speed
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2016, 07:56:05 PM »

Attenuation of 31.3 is a long line and the sync speed looks to be very good. It isn't capped as far as I can see.
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Re: Friend's Slow FTTC Speed
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2016, 09:12:27 PM »

+1, The line is very long at 30+ attenuation and the speed is not capped either.
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Re: Friend's Slow FTTC Speed
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2016, 09:24:27 PM »

Hang on. My line attenuation is 25.6 dB so nearly as long and I get double what he gets...
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Re: Friend's Slow FTTC Speed
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2016, 10:31:33 PM »

VDSL2 speed drop off rate increases quite drastically once you start getting over 500M long line length.



You can even see this by looking at the MDSL all user stats and sorting by line attenuation.

https://www.mydslwebstats.co.uk/HG612-MultUsersLivei.htm?UO=9
« Last Edit: March 05, 2016, 10:34:30 PM by Starman »
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Re: Friend's Slow FTTC Speed
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2016, 10:51:20 PM »

Also worth looking at what https://www.dslchecker.bt.com/ says for the line - but yes, it seems to be a long one..
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Re: Friend's Slow FTTC Speed
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2016, 11:51:02 PM »

Interesting graph from "Ofcom" on an Australian site. Why have Ofcom misspelled "meters" ?
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William Grimsley

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Re: Friend's Slow FTTC Speed
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2016, 09:11:56 AM »

Also worth looking at what https://www.dslchecker.bt.com/ says for the line - but yes, it seems to be a long one..

Yeah, he's getting the speed shown for the result of his landline number, but why is his upload speed so low?
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Re: Friend's Slow FTTC Speed
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2016, 09:38:59 AM »

Because of the amount of spectrum available compared to downstream. If he is getting what the DSLchecker says then there is nothing to be done the line is performing as specified.
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Re: Friend's Slow FTTC Speed
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2016, 09:42:48 AM »

Because of the amount of spectrum available compared to downstream. If he is getting what the DSLchecker says then there is nothing to be done the line is performing as specified.

Ok, I understand that but why is the download speed so much slower e.g. 50% of mine when he only has a 200 m longer line than me?
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Re: Friend's Slow FTTC Speed
« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2016, 09:48:29 AM »

Because of the increasing impedance on VDSL2 signals - that's just a limitation of the technology and the type of cable carrying the signal. Its no different than ADSL just rather than taking say 10KM to go from 20Mb to 1Mb it only takes about 600M to go from 100Mb to 10Mb.
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Re: Friend's Slow FTTC Speed
« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2016, 09:49:48 AM »

Because of the increasing impedance on VDSL2 signals - that's just a limitation of the technology and the type of cable carrying the signal. Its no different than ADSL just rather than taking say 10KM to go from 20Mb to 1Mb it only takes about 600M to go from 100Mb to 10Mb.

Yeah, Openreach are going to have to do something about this. Either bring FTTP to everywhere or increase the limit in the cabinets.
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Re: Friend's Slow FTTC Speed
« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2016, 10:36:02 AM »

There are technologies such as G.INP, Vectoring which could help current VDSL2 deployments and of course the forthcoming G.FAST based service in the next few years.
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Re: Friend's Slow FTTC Speed
« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2016, 11:14:09 AM »

There are technologies such as G.INP, Vectoring which could help current VDSL2 deployments and of course the forthcoming G.FAST based service in the next few years.

I hope G.FAST comes to my lane, I'm already getting bored with 32 Mbps...
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Re: Friend's Slow FTTC Speed
« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2016, 02:25:25 PM »

Ok, I've just thought about this again. Why do I have one friend who gets exactly the same download speed as the other and one gets 5 Mbps upload and one gets 1 Mbps upload? They're both on Huawei cabinets.
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