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S.Stephenson

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Got a HG612
« on: January 16, 2016, 03:41:30 PM »

I'm S.Step on DSLStats I dont know what half the stuff is to be honest, ill have to read through the http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/linestats_explanation.htm again.
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Re: Got a HG612
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2016, 03:54:49 PM »

A small correction if I may: you're S.Step on MyDslWebStats (MDWS). DSLstats is just the local program which can feed data to MDWS. There's also HG612_Modem_Stats for Windows, which can also feed data to MDWS.
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Re: Got a HG612
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2016, 02:25:53 PM »

Well as far as I can tell my line seems good, can anyone who knows this stuff shine any light onto any potential issues?
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Re: Got a HG612
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2016, 03:14:40 PM »

Your connection seems to be stable, and error rates are OK. Your connection speeds are probably reduced somewhat by crosstalk, and G.INP  would give you a boost, but there's nothing to be concerned about.
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Re: Got a HG612
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2016, 03:29:10 PM »

Id imagine crosstalk is a major factor in my area as before FTTC DSL was 2mbit/s tops, that and it been available since 2012.

Just seems strange to have 60mbit with 14.1 attenuation when I see all the lucky people with 17+ with max speeds still, just like I did back in 2012.

At least I'm <20m from my DP, roll on g.fast.

Also Telenet stuff
xdslcmd info --stats
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Retrain Reason:   0
Last initialization procedure status:   0
Max:   Upstream rate = 19619 Kbps, Downstream rate = 58612 Kbps
Bearer:   0, Upstream rate = 16995 Kbps, Downstream rate = 58142 Kbps

Link Power State:   L0
Mode:         VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile:      Profile 17a
TPS-TC:         PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis:      U:ON /D:ON
Line Status:      No Defect
Training Status:   Showtime
      Down      Up
SNR (dB):    6.3       6.5
Attn(dB):    14.1       0.0
Pwr(dBm):    14.0       3.2
         VDSL2 framing
         Bearer 0
MSGc:      19      129
B:      239      236
M:      1      1
T:      64      7
R:      0      16
S:      0.1314      0.4443
L:      14616      4592
D:      1      1
I:      240      255
N:      240      255
         Counters
         Bearer 0
OHF:      46607693      2067016
OHFErr:      95      184
RS:      0      655858
RSCorr:      0      1090
RSUnCorr:   0      0

         Bearer 0
HEC:      657      0
OCD:      20      0
LCD:      20      0
Total Cells:   2385190202      0
Data Cells:   831707178      0
Drop Cells:   0
Bit Errors:   0      0

ES:      75      143
SES:      0      0
UAS:      193      193
AS:      98347

         Bearer 0
INP:      0.00      0.00
INPRein:   0.00      0.00
delay:      0      0
PER:      2.11      7.02
OR:      94.78      153.75
AgR:      58236.51   17148.51

Bitswap:   41258/41258      538/551

Total time = 1 days 3 hours 22 min 20 sec
FEC:      0      1090
CRC:      95      184
ES:      75      143
SES:      0      0
UAS:      193      193
LOS:      0      0
LOF:      0      0
LOM:      0      0
Latest 15 minutes time = 7 min 20 sec
FEC:      0      1
CRC:      0      0
ES:      0      0
SES:      0      0
UAS:      0      0
LOS:      0      0
LOF:      0      0
LOM:      0      0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC:      0      1
CRC:      1      0
ES:      1      0
SES:      0      0
UAS:      0      0
LOS:      0      0
LOF:      0      0
LOM:      0      0
Latest 1 day time = 3 hours 22 min 20 sec
FEC:      0      69
CRC:      7      6
ES:      5      6
SES:      0      0
UAS:      0      0
LOS:      0      0
LOF:      0      0
LOM:      0      0
Previous 1 day time = 24 hours 0 sec
FEC:      0      1021
CRC:      88      178
ES:      70      137
SES:      0      0
UAS:      193      193
LOS:      0      0
LOF:      0      0
LOM:      0      0
Since Link time = 1 days 3 hours 19 min 7 sec
FEC:      0      1090
CRC:      95      184
ES:      75      143
SES:      0      0
UAS:      0      0

I think i saw interleave depth 1 somewhere, i assume that means i'm on the fast profile?

« Last Edit: January 17, 2016, 03:46:32 PM by S.Stephenson »
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Re: Got a HG612
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2016, 03:51:10 PM »

Did you upgrade to the latest firmware, B030SP08?
Are you connected to an ECI cab?
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S.Stephenson

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Re: Got a HG612
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2016, 03:52:58 PM »

Did you upgrade to the latest firmware, B030SP08?
Are you connected to an ECI cab?

I'm using B030SP06, and i'm on a ECI cabinet.

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Re: Got a HG612
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2016, 04:47:11 PM »

Ah yes, unlucky - no G.INP for you, which would fix most of your problems
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Re: Got a HG612
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2016, 01:52:15 AM »

Id imagine crosstalk is a major factor in my area as before FTTC DSL was 2mbit/s tops, that and it been available since 2012.

Just seems strange to have 60mbit with 14.1 attenuation when I see all the lucky people with 17+ with max speeds still, just like I did back in 2012.

That is indeed quite a drop from your potential speeds. I had a line of 16.x dB, whose attainable speed dropped from 90Mbps to 78Mbps over 2 years, all due to crosstalk. Yours seem to be hit even harder. The amount of crosstalk seems evident on the "Quiet Line" graph (aka QLN), which shows how much noise your modem can detect on your line before you sync with the DSLAM. The values shown indicate high noise (a *really* quiet line would register -140dB), but the pattern is right, and the noise is balanced across he spectrum.

On the positive side, you aren't being hit by errors, so you aren't likely to receive the double-whammy of DLM reducing your speed even further!
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Re: Got a HG612
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2016, 06:21:05 PM »

So the QLN graph is a now a good indication on how much crosstalk there is on a circuit  :-\
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Re: Got a HG612
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2016, 06:31:10 PM »

So the QLN graph is a now a good indication on how much crosstalk there is on a circuit  :-\

I think it has always been an indication as to how 'noisy' a line is - not always due to crosstalk.

For my own connection, I saw a gradual deterioration in the QLN graphs, which indicates gradual increases in 'noise' that are most likely to be the results of increasing crosstalk.

For comparison purposes, see the attached graphs using data for my connection from November 2011 & from today.

Back in 2011, US data wasn't reported by the HG612 modem, but the changes (deterioration) in DS QLN are pretty obvious.

The result is that DS sync speed gradually went from 30 Mbps+ to around 22 Mbps.



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