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memish

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Help with understand NTE-2005 Master and normal master
« on: September 26, 2011, 07:42:32 PM »

Hi all,

Okay so I don't know much about wiring so bear with me plz..

I have the main BT line outside, which connects to the "Master socket" in my living room. This master is not BT branded, it looks pretty old and simply has one socket in the middle. It looks exactly like the top image on this page: http://www.wppltd.demon.co.uk/WPP/Wiring/UK_telephone/uk_telephone.html

It has I believe two extensions coming of it which go to two extension sockets elsewhere is the house. Now my goal is to have a socket in my room (Upstairs).. As far as my understanding goes I can simply connect another wire (black thing containing lots of wires) to the master and run it to my room.

But what I want the best possible internet speeds in my room, So I have been looking at the NTE-2005 Master Faceplate.

My questions is: Do I have to replace my current master socket downstairs with this one? Then connect the extension cables again including my new one to my room?
Or do I have the NTE-2005 Master Faceplate in my room and connect that to the master downstairs?

Any help would be fantastic, thanks

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Re: Help with understand NTE-2005 Master and normal master
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2011, 08:53:33 PM »

Please anyone?
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HPsauce

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Re: Help with understand NTE-2005 Master and normal master
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2011, 09:24:04 PM »

Please post a photo of the wiring inside the master socket.
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memish

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Re: Help with understand NTE-2005 Master and normal master
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2011, 10:19:00 PM »

The file was too big too attached, i uploaded it to

http://i.imgur.com/FNta1.jpg

 master socket picture..

Thanks
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Re: Help with understand NTE-2005 Master and normal master
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2011, 10:41:46 PM »

Hmm that's a bit confusing with 3 cables coming in (2 black, 1 white) but only 2 wires into the master socket terminals.
Can you clarify what is/isn't connected?
And which wire is "incoming"?

Also you can remove the single orange wire in terminal number 3, it's the "bell wire" and is superfluous these days but degrades broadband.

As for replacing that socket, no you can't as BT own it.
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Re: Help with understand NTE-2005 Master and normal master
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2011, 03:18:58 AM »

The file was too big too attached, i uploaded it to

http://i.imgur.com/FNta1.jpg

Here is your picture, rotated by 90 degrees clockwise and scaled to an acceptable size for this forum. 

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« Last Edit: September 27, 2011, 03:21:15 AM by burakkucat »
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Re: Help with understand NTE-2005 Master and normal master
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2011, 03:25:48 AM »

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It has I believe two extensions coming of it which go to two extension sockets elsewhere is the house.

As well as providing the information that HP has requested, it would be very useful to see pictures of the wiring at the two extension sockets.
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Re: Help with understand NTE-2005 Master and normal master
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2011, 07:34:18 AM »

Hi Memish,

Just to state the obvious, that looks as if it is not a BT master socket. The best solution might be to pay BT to move the master socket to the position you require and in so doing they will provide a new one in any case, hopefully with a new drop wire as well.

Kind regards,
Walter

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Re: Help with understand NTE-2005 Master and normal master
« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2011, 08:37:15 AM »

that looks as if it is not a BT master socket. The best solution might be...
But it IS "a" master socket.
Probably best we understand the rest of the wiring and sockets first.  ;)
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Re: Help with understand NTE-2005 Master and normal master
« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2011, 10:04:08 AM »

Okay so I checked out the cabling inside.

As sort of seen in the photo, there are three bulk cables brought in (the rubber containing x number of wires inside). Out of these three bulk cables, only two small wires are used from each.

The white from each connected to 5 and the blue/white from each connected to 2. so In the main sockets there are three white cables connected to 5 and three blue/white cables connected to 2.
(I have removed that Orange wire as said).

Two of the cables coming in are extensions to other sockets and one of them come from the main BT line.
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Re: Help with understand NTE-2005 Master and normal master
« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2011, 10:59:38 AM »

In the main sockets there are three white cables connected to 5 and three blue/white cables connected to 2.
(I have removed that Orange wire as said).
Ah, yes, looking again the 3rd wire is there, just not obvious.

Well that's pretty normal wiring and unless you're having specific problems there's not necessarily a lot you can do quickly.
But, lets see photos of the insides of the other sockets first.....
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Re: Help with understand NTE-2005 Master and normal master
« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2011, 11:22:30 AM »

thanks for the prompt reply. That's good to know that it looks all normal :D
I am at work at the moment but will get some photos for you as soon as possible.
So is it not clear from here that I can just run another extension to the upstairs room (from outside) in the same way as the other two come of the master? Then connect the Router to that extension socket upstairs (As I need the PC in that room connect via Ethernet from router and not wireless) and ideally I want the best internet speeds possible in that room.

Cheers

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Re: Help with understand NTE-2005 Master and normal master
« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2011, 01:36:03 PM »

You would be better to remove all extension wiring and run a single "proper" CW1308 cable to a new conveniently-located NTE5A of your own, fit a filtered faceplate to that, then run extensions as required from there.
See here, for example: http://www.clarity.it/telecoms/nte5.htm

As for an ethernet-connected PC, remember you can run up to 100m of ethernet without ANY degradation.
So just place your router at a convenient location and run a Cat5 cable from there.  ;)
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