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Author Topic: Virtual keyboard - any good ?  (Read 6713 times)

CurlyWhirly

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Virtual keyboard - any good ?
« on: May 27, 2011, 08:54:50 PM »

I've been using Kaspersky's Virtual Keyboard every time I have to enter passwords and other confidential information into secure websites but I'm wondering is it really any more secure than using the keyboard ?

If not then I may as well go back to using the keyboard  ;D

Any theories anyone ?

Cheers.
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Re: Virtual keyboard - any good ?
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2011, 08:59:38 PM »

This is what it looks like:

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Re: Virtual keyboard - any good ?
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2011, 10:31:06 PM »

How does it work?
What is the claimed advantage?
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Re: Virtual keyboard - any good ?
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2011, 10:46:53 PM »

How does it work?
You enter passwords, etc via the mouse as opposed to the keyboard.


What is the claimed advantage?
According to Kaspersky, using it deters key loggers.
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Re: Virtual keyboard - any good ?
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2011, 11:03:54 PM »

I would like to see an explanation of how it does that. Maybe I'm being over-simplistic here, but surely, when you click on a character on the virtual keyboard, it must put a signal into the system which is the same as the signal from a real keyboard. So why doesn't a keylogger pick it up just the same?
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Re: Virtual keyboard - any good ?
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2011, 06:04:08 AM »

I would think that it can only deter physical keyloggers...ie, those which are devices planted onto an actual keyboard.

I would also think that the virtual keyboard built into Windows is as effective ( or otherwise ) as the Kaspersky one.
« Last Edit: May 28, 2011, 06:11:09 AM by tuftedduck »
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Re: Virtual keyboard - any good ?
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2011, 08:14:19 AM »

I would like to see an explanation of how it does that. Maybe I'm being over-simplistic here, but surely, when you click on a character on the virtual keyboard, it must put a signal into the system which is the same as the signal from a real keyboard. So why doesn't a keylogger pick it up just the same?
I was thinking that as well hence my query !
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Re: Virtual keyboard - any good ?
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2011, 08:18:26 AM »

I would also think that the virtual keyboard built into Windows is as effective ( or otherwise ) as the Kaspersky one.
Oh yes the Microsoft keyboard, I forgot about that.

After googling, I got reminded of how you activate it - I haven't used it for years.

You type OSK (which stands for On Screen Keyboard) into the Run command.

One strange thing is the fact that you need a working keyboard in order to activate it, which is it's main purpose I presume, which is to allow you to enter text when your keyboard is not working properly ?

If so then when your keyboard is knackered then you can't get the OSK up and running anyway  ???
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Re: Virtual keyboard - any good ?
« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2011, 08:38:10 AM »

It was built into Windows originally as an accessibility aid, either for those with a visual impairment ( it can be expanded to fill or partially fill the screen ) or those with restricted movement who may find difficulty in typing.
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Re: Virtual keyboard - any good ?
« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2011, 08:49:08 AM »

It was built into Windows originally as an accessibility aid, either for those with a visual impairment ( it can be expanded to fill or partially fill the screen ) or those with restricted movement who may find difficulty in typing.
Oh right.

I didn't know that  :)
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Re: Virtual keyboard - any good ?
« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2011, 08:56:37 AM »

The Kaspersky keyboard runs in a sandbox so that the keystrokes cannot be recorded.

I prefer the Safe Zone system in Avast which is so much easier to use as you are using your standard keyboard but running in a virtual desktop with in built secured browser,once finished any transaction you just clear down the session and nothing remains to be traced.
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Re: Virtual keyboard - any good ?
« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2011, 09:49:54 AM »

I have been using macros for years as some of my passwords are hard to remember and even harder to type, I also use Roboform.

What I use:

Typeitin (Password Protected)
Macromaker (quite hard to set up)
Roboform. (Password Protected)
« Last Edit: May 28, 2011, 09:53:02 AM by BritBrat »
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Re: Virtual keyboard - any good ?
« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2011, 10:32:25 AM »

You enter passwords, etc via the mouse as opposed to the keyboard.
:no:
I meant, what mechanisms does it use, not how do you use it.  :lol:
As noted above it could easily be vulnerable.

In fact unless it ties in to some security "client" at the receiving end (where and how?) I don't see much point.
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Re: Virtual keyboard - any good ?
« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2011, 01:36:03 PM »

You enter passwords, etc via the mouse as opposed to the keyboard.
:no:
I meant, what mechanisms does it use, not how do you use it.  :lol:
As noted above it could easily be vulnerable.

In fact unless it ties in to some security "client" at the receiving end (where and how?) I don't see much point.

They are more for defeating keyloggers and snoopers at the users end.
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Re: Virtual keyboard - any good ?
« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2011, 07:29:51 PM »

The Kaspersky keyboard runs in a sandbox so that the keystrokes cannot be recorded.
Ah so I was partly right, the Kaspersky virtual keyboard is supposed to avoid keyloggers but only in a sandbox environment.



I prefer the Safe Zone system in Avast which is so much easier to use as you are using your standard keyboard but running in a virtual desktop with in built secured browser,once finished any transaction you just clear down the session and nothing remains to be traced.
That sounds like a great system to me.
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