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[waltergmw]

Here's an interesting article:-

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-east-wales-11166119

Kind regards,
Walter

[UncleUB]

BT =£550,000

Rutland Telecom = £50,000

I wonder if BT will do a price match. 

[roseway]

BT's quote sounds like a 'go-away' response.

[CurlyWhirly]

BT =£550,000

Rutland Telecom = £50,000

I wonder if BT will do a price match. 

Who in their right mind would pay over half a million pounds for a broadband service apart from a multi-millionaire 

[UncleUB]

BT =£550,000

Rutland Telecom = £50,000

I wonder if BT will do a price match.  

I was right.   £100  each home !!!

http://www.ispreview.co.uk/story/2010/09/09/bt-undercut-small-uk-isp-rutland-telecom-to-broadband-enable-erbistock.html

[roseway]

So BT can, on request, transfer people in that village to a different exchange. I wonder how they do that. If it's only £100 a time it can't involve digging up the roads and laying new cables.

[silversurfer44]

Those are very interesting points Roseway. I would be interested in the answer(s). Maybe Walter could enlighten us.

[waltergmw]

In my experience BT Openreach will refuse absolutely to transfer a physical domestic line from one exchange area to another.
I've tried that to get broadband to not-spots with no success at all.

Large centres can pay for what they want. E.g. many years ago there were diverse routed lines from Crawley and Brighton into Gatwick Airport.

Full VOIP over internet can "connect" any number wordwide to your modem / phone although at significant cost for overseas ones.

Kind reagrds,
Walter

[silversurfer44]

Thank you Walter. I gather from what you say that some areas are routed in a roundabout way and can in fact be routed in a better way. Is this correct?

[waltergmw]

Hi SS,

In Physical terms the BT twisted pair network could be improved to reduce line lengths all over the place but they will refuse to do so as it would give them a great deal of physical work for no reward and then their error prone database would also require updating.

As regards routing a particular number, I imagine there is a massive computer database system which is really a telephone directory and which includes the Communications Provider information. Any unique telephone number can then be dispatched to the relevant real or virtual exchange equipment. E.g. for real equipment that could be BT equipment in a local exchange or say TalkTalk's LLU equipment and for a "virtual" exchange the call could be routed to a VOIP provider who would then forward the VOIP packets to the relevant IP address of your modem. This is probably an over-simplistic description which Perhaps Kitz could elaborate on when she has a spare year or two !

EDIT Mea Culpa ! I had missed the posting about Erbistock which is the first time I've seen such a proposal. I still think it highly unlikely that BT can do this elsewhere and are only offering to construct new lines from a closer exchange as they see a significant loss of revenue. It might also help BT Destroy Rutland Telecom if they've already invested in BT surveys and placed orders through BT Openreach or BT Wholesale. On the other hand if the villagers see this as a vindictive move they might all decide to go with Rutland for the possibility of much faster VDSL2+ services and a lot less future obfuscation.

Kind regards,
Walter

[silversurfer44]

Many thanks Walter, I'll go for a lay down now while I digest all that. 

[stevie]

I`m wondering if the actual cable runs via Overton & then to Bangor?

If you look on Google maps & use the postcodes for

The Boat Inn at Erbistock LL13 0DL

The Overton-on-Dee Exchange LL130LJ

The Bangor-on-Dee Exchange  LL130AB

You`ll see it wouldn`t be to far fetched to run this way (there is another obvious route), as its all along main roads, I presume BT don`t just string cables all over the countryside?

If the route goes via Overton then it`d be just a matter of cut & splice into the Overton exchange, I wonder how much spare capacity it has?

BT might be banking on only some residents taking them up on the £100/line, because folks don`t like changing numbers or don`t want ADSL, so if only 30 took them up, there`d remain less for Rutland to gain (possibly making it financially nonviable).