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Author Topic: Keeping email address when changing ISP  (Read 17238 times)

kapt69

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Keeping email address when changing ISP
« on: February 23, 2010, 02:14:14 PM »

HI
Have searched, but cannot find 'simple' answer so hope someone may advise. I have been considering changing ISP for some time, but am always put off by having to change email address and therefore presumably notify all the many people & organisations who have the old one.
It's not necessarily the people on my address book - it's all the organisations etc that have my address that I have forgotten about!! Some I agree I would be better off losing contact with - but not all.
Is there a way of keeping old address? (Am with orange - my address format: john@doe.fsnet.co.uk and also my wife mary@doe.fsnet.co.uk - details obviously changed) I have read Kitz email tutorial, but don't believe that answers this.
If there is no way - how do people manage to not lose contact with 'people' that they have forgotten to notify - is there an email equivalent of the POst Office mail forwarding?
Sorry if this is v. basic - but I have wanted to ask for some time & have at last plucked up the courage!! :-[
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HPsauce

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Re: Keeping email address when changing ISP
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2010, 02:20:59 PM »

It depends ENTIRELY on the policy of the ISP concerned.
Some cut you off immediately.
Some give you the option to pay a small monthly fee.
Some require you to log in and somehow "refresh" your account regularly.
Some just leave them there.

I believe Orange will suspend your account if you don't connect to it via Orange for a period (6 months?) but you can reinstate it through a non-trivial but not impossible process.

Best to get an ISP-independent email account, at least as a backup, well before migrating and make sure you tell people or at least keep a copy of your address book.
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kapt69

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Re: Keeping email address when changing ISP
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2010, 02:38:57 PM »

HP
Thanks for reply.
I guess these independent addresses have charges - are there any that people would recommend as being fair value & reliable?
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Re: Keeping email address when changing ISP
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2010, 02:40:41 PM »

Or a web based mail account........Hotmail, Yahoo, Googlemail etc.
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HPsauce

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Re: Keeping email address when changing ISP
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2010, 03:03:36 PM »

I guess these independent addresses have charges
In general only if you want your own domain name.
The ones listed by TD are all free.
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kapt69

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Re: Keeping email address when changing ISP
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2010, 03:19:32 PM »

TD/HP
Many thanks - knew I shouldn't have asked - decisions - choices  ! :no:
Will look into Googlemail (Gmail?) as this seems favoured by what I've read so far.
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Re: Keeping email address when changing ISP
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2010, 03:59:45 PM »

TD/HP
Many thanks - knew I shouldn't have asked - decisions - choices  ! :no:
Will look into Googlemail (Gmail?) as this seems favoured by what I've read so far.

I have had a Google (Gmail) account for a couple of years now and I am very happy with it I get very lttle spam into my junk mail folder.
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kapt69

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Re: Keeping email address when changing ISP
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2010, 05:07:13 PM »

UUB
That gives me more confidence - thanks.
I think I'll have to bite the bullet & change ISPs so if I'm going to lose my existing address may as well get one that I can keep 'forever' - or at least until I don't need one anymore! :oldman:
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I get very lttle spam into my junk mail folder.
Just one more Q: - where will I get all that Viagra from now?
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Re: Keeping email address when changing ISP
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2010, 07:06:37 AM »

You should be able to keep it if you can downgrade it to a dialup account.

I have Orange Email accounts but I am not with Orange and never have been.

You do have to dial in every month or so to keep them active.

Mine are so old they look something like this: FISTNAME@MYNAME.freeserve.co.uk

A others have said, get your own domain name and an Email account, keep the Orange one going for a year using dialup and change them all over to own domain during that time.


I believe Orange will suspend your account if you don't connect to it via Orange for a period (6 months?) but you can reinstate it through a non-trivial but not impossible process.

I don't think that is the case any more, once closed it is not able to reactivate it again.  It was possible for years and you never had to dial in once it stoped you just reactivated it but they change the T&C.

It is now administerd from a place in the news this week, Madeira.
« Last Edit: February 24, 2010, 07:23:31 AM by BritBrat »
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kapt69

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Re: Keeping email address when changing ISP
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2010, 12:49:04 PM »

BB - thanks for info. Very interesting.
Would you mind telling me how you 'dial in'? I remember having to connect 'manually' when I was on dialup & using a modem. Having been on broadband and using a router now for a few years I'm not sure how you would actually do it. (or indeed how you get an account downgraded - don't suppose Orange will fall over themselves to be helpful if I'm leaving!)
If this is a possibility it does give some security in case I miss out a mail contact in the changeover.
Cheers
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Re: Keeping email address when changing ISP
« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2010, 09:12:19 PM »

Kapt,

You probably won't thank me for throwing other equations into the melting pot, but I'll do so anyway.

For future email addresses, I highly recommend registering a domain name, like kapt69.co.uk.  You'd then be able to forward mail for <anybody>@kapt69.co.uk ('anybody' being you@..., the_wife@..., the_goldfish@.... etc.) to whatever ISP you happen to be using.   You, your family, your pets then have a permanent email address as long as you pay for it (a few pounds a year). If you want to switch ISP in future, you just change the forwarding rules to match your new ISP , but keep the same mail address.

I've just checked and, amazingly 'kapt69.co.uk' is not already registered, so you could snap it up if you're quick.  But who knows, you may be able to think of something even better. :D

There's various sites who make it all easy for you.  Personally, I use www.freeparking.co.uk, take a look - it's easy to see if your preferred domain name would be available, and how much it would cost.  For example, .com names are a little more expensive that .co.uk, but not much more if you feel happier with a .com.

- 7LM
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kapt69

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Re: Keeping email address when changing ISP
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2010, 08:02:12 AM »

7LM
Thank you for the suggestion - I had a wonderful image then of your household - the dog with his own email - brings a whole new slant on  'the dog & bone'!
I have been following previous suggestions and have set up a Googlemail address (for my wife - using her to test the system!), but I did wonder about the paid-for domain names.
I do tend to believe you 'get what you pay for'  -so - what benefits do you find in having a domain as opposed to the 'free' Google/Yahoo addresses?
Cheers
K
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Re: Keeping email address when changing ISP
« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2010, 08:49:16 AM »

Personally I've found domain names (I have several) useful for 4 things:
1. Easily provide email addresses for all the family when they want them (though now the kids have moved on elsewhere)
2. Long-term guaranteed continuity of contact details for personal communications
3. Less spam - just don't seem to be targeted as much (but I am careful)
4. Looks more professional, both on CV's and the like and especially if you run a small business or are a sole trader.
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Re: Keeping email address when changing ISP
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2010, 09:20:52 AM »

BB - thanks for info. Very interesting.
Would you mind telling me how you 'dial in'? I remember having to connect 'manually' when I was on dialup & using a modem. Having been on broadband and using a router now for a few years I'm not sure how you would actually do it. (or indeed how you get an account downgraded - don't suppose Orange will fall over themselves to be helpful if I'm leaving!)
If this is a possibility it does give some security in case I miss out a mail contact in the changeover.
Cheers

Would you mind telling me how you 'dial in'?

I have a internal modem on computer that is normally disabled in system (To stop rouge diallers) I reactivate modem and go to START - ALL PROGRAMS - CONNECT TO - SHOW ALL CONNECTIONS and in there I have the dialup for my freeserve account.  I click it and let it connect even though I still have broadband running on same computer let it connect and a few minutes later disconnect, disable modem again until next time.

WHAT EVER YOU DO

Do not run the Orange install programme, set it up manually.

If you go to the Orange site and do an account retrieval you can download the .ins file (DO NOT SELECT RUN as they say to do) save it to desktop and open it with notepad and inside will be all the information you need to setup the dialup account.

The only thing I am not sure about is if you can also setup a dialup account with the same details as broadband account.

Just give the retrival a try and see what happens:
retrieve an active account
Save the link to favourites as it is hard to find at times.

You may have to downgrade first, phone up and ask Orange.











« Last Edit: February 26, 2010, 09:57:22 AM by BritBrat »
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Re: Keeping email address when changing ISP
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2010, 09:56:53 AM »

One more thing occurred to me re private domains...  With a .com domain name the registrant's full contact name & address in full public view via the 'whois' servers.  With a .co.uk name, private (non-trading) registrant's can opt not to disclose their address.

And further to HP's suggested advantages (all of which I agree with)...
...I suggested forwarding mail to your ISP because that's probably the easiest thing to do.  But you don't have to, you can use any mail hosting service that's available to you.  freeparking, for example, allow you to use their own mail service (with webmail access) if you prefer, though I have to say that whenever I tried their webmail it's been so slow as to be completely unusable.

For the technically ambitious you could even implement your own mail server, which is a lot more secure (secure as in 'private') than entrusting it to the IT dept. of your ISP.   I've never done so as it would mean opening a port in the router's firewall, and the thought of the slightest chink in the router's armour fills me with dread.


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