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Biscuit
« on: September 22, 2009, 11:34:04 AM »

Came across these.

http://helpdesk.vispa.com/index.php?_m=knowledgebase&_a=viewarticle&kbarticleid=199
http://helpdesk.vispa.com/index.php?_m=knowledgebase&_a=viewarticle&kbarticleid=198&nav=0,2,14

Which can be found from their knowledge base here.

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Bit surprised that a UK ISP should have done that.. particularly when I have contacts with them going back many years.
If they had wanted to use any of my copy righted material they could have easily have asked first and we could have come to some sort of agreement.

But to put content directly up on their knowledgebase and offering them as downloadable PDFs crediting the Author as Vispa Intenet Limited , when what  theyve taken a direct copy from my site... really does take the biscuit.  :-X
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Re: Biscuit
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2009, 12:03:26 PM »

Biscuit indeed! I trust that you've complained to them?
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Re: Biscuit
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2009, 12:47:10 PM »

Cut and paste.  Even the hyperlinks to other Kitz sections have remained in the text.  :no:
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Re: Biscuit
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2009, 12:54:13 PM »

Thats very cheeky..... >:(
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Re: Biscuit
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2009, 12:54:24 PM »

You'd better take a look at http://www.vivaciti.net/whmcs/knowledgebase.php?action=displayarticle&id=2  :-X





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Re: Biscuit
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2009, 12:55:52 PM »

Biscuit indeed! I trust that you've complained to them?


You bet.

It will be interesting to see what they say.
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Re: Biscuit
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2009, 01:06:00 PM »

You'd better take a look at http://www.vivaciti.net/whmcs/knowledgebase.php?action=displayarticle&id=2  :-X


Thanks for that orainsear.

Vivaciti did contact me in 2007 asking about reproduction of some areas and I responded at the time.
However somewhere down the line, the original source and link back appears to 'have got forgotten'.
I'll chase.
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Re: Biscuit
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2009, 10:45:44 AM »

Actually this is getting quite serious..  and I think I  may need to start taking some legal advice.

Ive just found out that a company which manufactures telecommunication equipment - which includes adsl equipment -  has taken the interleaved page and included it in their instruction manual for VDSL & mini dslams.
Theyve literally ripped the whole page..  replaced adsl with VDSL in relevant places. 
They've then taken out my image which has (c) kitz 2006 and replaced it with one that theyve done which is practically the same, just re-coloured... and without the copyright note.

I cant afford to set a president here..  the whole site has been developed over many years, much research and hardwork and at one time offered information to the public which wasnt available anywhere else.
It takes up a huge amount of my time for no financial gain

I have no problem with others using it to help others - thats what its there for.. 
but now that commercial companies who make large profits are ripping the site off... this is going too far.



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Re: Biscuit
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2009, 10:57:09 AM »

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Actually this is getting quite serious..  and I think I  may need to start taking some legal advice.

I think that must be your next move Kitz.

When companies start to do this kind of thing it just isn't on.

The site is a wealth of information and has taken you many,many hours of hard work to put it all in place,then for big companies to come along and just copy it down and make minor edits is disgraceful.
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Re: Biscuit
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2009, 10:58:53 AM »

That's terrible, and I think it would be worth getting some legal advice. The Citizens Advice Bureau might be a good place to start.
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« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2009, 11:36:46 AM »

I have just spoken with my (tame) lawyer friend and he reckons you have a definite case.  Advice is to write (registered letter) to their company secretary asking that they take out the offending pages whilst they negotiate with you for a licence to use your copyrighted material.  In the letter give them a defined time period to take down (I suggest 7 days max).

I had a similar case a few years back and a VERY big american corporation climbed down gracefully wiithout any real fuss.  We agreed that if they gave due credit to us for the material and supplied us with free printers/laptops (we were also a not-for-profit) then their transgression would be overlooked.

Go for it gal!

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Re: Biscuit
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2009, 11:44:28 AM »

The Citizens Advice Bureau might be a good place to start.

I was going to say "Sod them !"..........Colin beat me to it with the correct advice.

If the letter doesn't work then a formal solicitor's letter must follow very quickly........the cost is peanuts.
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Re: Biscuit
« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2009, 12:01:58 PM »

The first letter usually works since the company secretary knows his legal obligations and can be relied upon to smack the marketing people around the head. :shoot:
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Re: Biscuit
« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2009, 02:13:46 PM »

Thanks guys for the info so far.

Theres also more info thats come to light too.
Ive got some work to do..  and I will be following up.

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Re: Biscuit
« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2009, 07:20:27 PM »

Hi
I was a bit slow . When I read the first 2 links I thought "hang on the prasing of this is familiar  Then it clicked  ???

What a cheek  >:(

Regards Jeff
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