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Author Topic: Large downstream queue  (Read 3633 times)

ammoman

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Large downstream queue
« on: September 20, 2009, 02:27:14 PM »

Hi all,
I tested my link with a tester from Glasnost and it gave me the following result -

Our measurements found the following characteristics for your link (hostXX-XXX-XX-27.rangeXX-151.btcentralplus.com - XX.XXX.XX.27)
 Downstream Bandwidth: 1496 Kbps    Downstream Queue: 1025 ms
 Upstream Bandwidth: 397 Kbps    Upstream Queue: 90 ms

Notes:
 Your downstream queue is larger than 300ms and thus larger than average round-trip times in the Internet (e.g., 50ms for US coast-to-coast delays and 150ms for transatlantic delays) which is the recommended size for queues.

I assume that the large downstream queue means that I have a lower download speed than my line is capable of and if so, is there anything I can do to change it.
I'm using a Homehub 1 on an up to 8mb connection and here are my stats -
DSL Connection
Link Information

Uptime:
0 days, 13:50:48

Modulation:
G.992.1 annex A

Bandwidth (Up/Down)
[kbps/kbps]:
448 / 1,760

Data Transferred
(Sent/Received) [MB/MB]:
14.16 / 134.79

Output Power (Up/Down)
[dBm]:
11.5 / 17.5

Line Attenuation
(Up/Down) [dB]:
27.5 / 53.0

SN Margin (Up/Down)
[dB]:
20.0 / 8.0

Vendor ID (Local/Remote):
TMMB / TSTC

Loss of Framing
(Local/Remote):
0 / 0

Loss of Signal
(Local/Remote):
5 / 0

Loss of Power
(Local/Remote):
0 / 0

Loss of Link (Remote):
0

Error Seconds
(Local/Remote):
510 / 0

FEC Errors (Up/Down):
0 / 4,941,739

CRC Errors (Up/Down):
0 / 1,044

HEC Errors (Up/Down):
0 / 702

Line Profile:
Interleaved

Any help appreciated.

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roseway

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Re: Large downstream queue
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2009, 03:24:20 PM »

I'm afraid I don't know what the downstream queue is, but I just did a Glasnost test myself and it wasn't even able to complete the link test, although the P2P tests all passed.
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ammoman

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Re: Large downstream queue
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2009, 03:45:32 PM »

Cheers Eric,
Hopefully one of our gurus will know!
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Re: Large downstream queue
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2009, 04:13:02 PM »

I'm getting interested in this now, and I found a different route to the link test (probably the one which you used http://loki10.mpi-sws.mpg.de/bb/bb.php ), with this result:

 Our measurements found the following characteristics for your link (port-252.xxx.th.newnet.co.uk - 80.175.68.252)

*    Downstream Bandwidth:    657 Kbps         *    Downstream Queue:    308 ms
*    Upstream Bandwidth:    397 Kbps         *    Upstream Queue:    1705 ms
Notes:

* Your downstream queue is larger than 300ms and thus larger than average round-trip times in the Internet (e.g., 50ms for US coast-to-coast delays and 150ms for transatlantic delays) which is the recommended size for queues.

* Your upstream queue is so large that packets can get delayed for more than a second. This can be a problem for real-time traffic such as VoIP or online games!

Quite different from yours, but still terrible according to them. :) And the result isn't representative any way, because the measured downstream speed is much lower than it really is (about 3.9 Mbps currently with speedtest.net).


« Last Edit: September 20, 2009, 04:16:31 PM by roseway »
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general disquiet

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Re: Large downstream queue
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2009, 04:16:18 PM »

Ammoman,  did you use the UK server or one of the US ones?  The high queue time might reflect a US server, and a connection losing quite a few packets in transmission.  That might be a reflection of the high SNR margin on your line.  (Just checked and Glasnost has now been changed - it will be a US server it is linking to)

Try the 1st and 3rd test here http://www.measurementlab.net/measurement-lab-tools on the same page as Glasnost and see if they pick anything unusual up.  The first one is fairly straightforward, but you'll need to play around a little to get the third one to work properly.  I'd start off by setting your target speed to 1 Mbps and the other figure (latency) to 350 ms.  If that fails, it will suggest values you can try.

- these tests do let you pick which server you use.

Good luck
« Last Edit: September 20, 2009, 04:18:35 PM by general disquiet »
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