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[roseway]

That's good Delia. Sorry if I went into patronising lecture mode.

Eric

[delia]

Not at all Eric, you just put it more eloquently!
Delia

[mr_chris]

To get the IP address of a computer you're sitting at, do this:

If the computer is running Windows 2000, XP or Vista, do this:
- Click Start -> Run and type cmd in the box, then click OK (or press Enter)
- At the prompt, type ipconfig and press Enter
One or more of the lines will show "IP address". Depending on how your PC is set up there may be more than one network interface - choose the one with an IP address in the same range as you know you're using e.g. 192.168.0.x

If the computer is running Windows 95/98/Me, do this:
- Click Start -> Run and type winipcfg in the box, then click OK (or press Enter)
- Choose the network adapter from the list at the top of the window. Depending on how your PC is set up there may be more than one network interface - choose the one that shows an IP address in the same range as you know you're using e.g. 192.168.0.x

Hope this helps

[jeremy]

Use ifconfig in Linux

[canon]

I use a DG834 v2 and am about to buy another one on someone else's behalf, no doubt it will be a version 3.

Are there any significant difference between the 2 versions (I know the firmware is different) in performance, use, interface and facilities?

I see that Netgear have an update for V3 for Vista and they say

DG834v1 and v2 have been discontinued, no updates planned

.
I can't quite see why Vista should make any difference as the router is accessed via a browser, any comments?

Thanks,
Terry.

[mr_chris]

I'm not sure why Vista needs an update either, but oh well.. perhaps something to do with the uPnP, I dunno.

As for the difference between the versions - it's not just that the firmware is different, it's based on a completely different ADSL chipset... the v1 and v2 were based on the Texas Instruments AR7 chipset, and the v3 has a different. However, the chipset is only half the story, and Netgear seem to have done a good job in the firmware for both versions, which mean they both seem to perform pretty well, and, crucially for a lot of owners, they will hold the connection under conditions where other routers would simply drop out and resync.

I've heard good reports of the v3 - I have a v2 and I like it. I'd still get a v3 based on what I've heard.

[edited 14.11.07
re now some doubt over which chipset is used with v3]

[soms]

I thought I would experiment with some new hardware and bought a Netgear 111P modem and a WGR614 router (just to be different to having an all-in-one solution).

It all works nicely, ff course you can say once the modem is hooked into the router you cannot retrieve stats but since I know how the line performs anyway I am not too fussed, can always unplug and use direct on PC if need to check.

Anyhow, in the box of the WRG614 was a slip of paper saying that a Windows Vista update is available, however it also says that this is for the Installation Wizard software which some people use.

I suspect the DG834 is in the same position, with it being an install wizard update rather than a firmware update?

[bezoss]

You have to go round the houses a bit to get the information, but it's not too difficult.

First logon to the router and then select this address:

http://192.168.0.1/setup.cgi?todo=debug

which should result in a screen which just says 'Debug enable'.
(That's assuming that you haven't changed the router's IP address from the default).

Then exit from the web interface and open a command-line window. Type:

telnet 192.168.0.1

You should get a BusyBox welcome message to confirm that your telnet connection is established.

Now type:

cat /proc/avalanche/avsar_modem_stats

This will give you a stream of information about the ADSL connection. Scroll up and find a section something like this:

        [Upstream (TX) Interleave path]
        CRC:    0       FEC:    0       NCD:    1
        LCD:    0       HEC:    0

        [Downstream (RX) Interleave path]
        CRC:    0       FEC:    0       NCD:    0
        LCD:    0       HEC:    0

        [Upstream (TX) Fast path]
        CRC:    1       FEC:    68      NCD:    0
        LCD:    0       HEC:    0

        [Downstream (RX) Fast path]
        CRC:    49      FEC:    0       NCD:    0
        LCD:    0       HEC:    0

In this example the interleave figures are all zero, apart from the first NCD value, which always seems to be 1, so this router is in fast mode. If you see zeros in the fast path sections and other figures in the interleave sections, then interleave is on.

Eric

hi i have dg834 v.3 i type this Now type:

cat /proc/avalanche/avsar_modem_stats

but i get..  cat /proc/avalanche/avsar_modem_stats  no such file or directory...what goes wrong?

i downloaded RouterStats v 2.7i   this and i saw that interleaving is off...what exactly is interleaving?


AR7 DSL Modem Statistics:
--------------------------------
[DSL Modem Stats]
        US Connection Rate:     188     DS Connection Rate:     762
        DS Line Attenuation:    25      DS Margin:              31
        US Line Attenuation:    20      US Margin:              26
        US Payload :            92391312        DS Payload:             195181296
        US Superframe Cnt :     2317255 DS Superframe Cnt:      2317255
        US Transmit Power :     0       DS Transmit Power:      0
        LOS errors:             0       SEF errors:             0
        Frame mode:             0       Max Frame mode:         0
        Trained Path:           1       US Peak Cell Rate:      443
        Trained Mode:           16      Selected Mode:          1
        ATUC Vendor Code:       4753504E        ATUC Revision:  2
        Hybrid Selected:        4       Trellis:                1
        Showtime Count:         2       DS Max Attainable Bit Rate: 15188 kbps
        BitSwap:                1       US Max Attainable Bit Rate: 55072000 bps
        Annex:                  AnxA    psd_mask_qualifier: 0x0000
        ATUC ghsVid:  ff b5 47 53 50 4e 00 0d
        T1413Vid: 00 00         T1413Rev: 00            VendorRev: 00
        ATUR ghsVid:  b5 00 54 53 54 43 00 00
        T1413Vid: 00 00 T1413Rev: 00    VendorRev: 00

        [Upstream (TX) Interleave path]
        CRC:    0       FEC:    0       NCD:    0
        LCD:    0       HEC:    0

        [Downstream (RX) Interleave path]
        CRC:    0       FEC:    0       NCD:    0
        LCD:    0       HEC:    0

        [Upstream (TX) Fast path]
        CRC:    23      FEC:    0       NCD:    0
        LCD:    0       HEC:    10

        [Downstream (RX) Fast path]
        CRC:    3       FEC:    1       NCD:    0
        LCD:    0       HEC:    0


are these ok?? thanks and sorry for the big post

[kitz]

Hi and welcome

Those instructions that roseway gave were for version 2 of the dg834, so possibly dont work on the version 3?.

>> i saw that interleaving is off...what exactly is interleaving?

Youre on FAST which as you say means that Interleaving is OFF

Theres an explanation of Interleaving and how it works on the main site - Interleaving Explained.
Youre on FAST path which as you say means interlea

>> are these ok??

> DS Connection Rate:     762
> DS Line Attenuation:    25
> DS Margin:              31


With that attenuation you should be getting full Max speeds or near as.  Your SNR Margin is very high, and based on your current sync speed, I'm not surprised.

Reboot your router, and you should sync at a much higher speed.

[bezoss]

>> are these ok??

> DS Connection Rate:     762
> DS Line Attenuation:    25
> DS Margin:              31


With that attenuation you should be getting full Max speeds or near as.  Your SNR Margin is very high, and based on your current sync speed, I'm not surprised.

Reboot your router, and you should sync at a much higher speed.

Hi and big thanks for the answer:)

I rebooted my modem as you said and i  got

ADSL Link     Downstream     Upstream
Connection Speed    762 kbps    192 kbps
Line Attenuation    24 db    10 db
Noise Margin    30 db    28 db

so nothing changed i think except of the uploading. i asked some guys and they told me that i dont synchronize to 768 but to 762 because i am in a adsl2+ bras or something like that and they said it's logical.

[roseway]

Two things:

1. With the V3 version of the router I think that the command you need after telnetting into the router may be:

adslctl info --stats

(I'm not certain about this and don't have one to check with, but that's the command which the DG834GT uses.)

2. Your connection figures after rebooting are a bit crazy. As Kitz said, with that level of attenuation you should be getting close to 8 Mbps. This is nothing to do with your BRAS profile by the way, that's a separate issue. Just to check - any telephone equipment (phones, faxes, Sky boxes etc.) in your home are connected via filters, are they? This is essential. If you've got an NTE5 master socket (the lower half of the faceplate is separately removable) you could remove the faceplate and plug your router into the test socket inside, then reboot your router. This would eliminate all internal wiring and phones from affecting the connection.

Eric

[bezoss]

Two things:

1. With the V3 version of the router I think that the command you need after telnetting into the router may be:

adslctl info --stats

(I'm not certain about this and don't have one to check with, but that's the command which the DG834GT uses.)

2. Your connection figures after rebooting are a bit crazy. As Kitz said, with that level of attenuation you should be getting close to 8 Mbps. This is nothing to do with your BRAS profile by the way, that's a separate issue. Just to check - any telephone equipment (phones, faxes, Sky boxes etc.) in your home are connected via filters, are they? This is essential. If you've got an NTE5 master socket (the lower half of the faceplate is separately removable) you could remove the faceplate and plug your router into the test socket inside, then reboot your router. This would eliminate all internal wiring and phones from affecting the connection.

Eric

LOL my connection is 768 that is what i pay! so i am ok:) i dont pay for 8mbps:)

thanks guys you are great:)

[kitz]

Um... adsl2+ shouldnt really make any difference..  the line is supposed to sync at the best speed it can allowing for a target SNR.
Your Noise Margin of 30dB indicates that you have tons of Margin to play with and you should be getting much better than that.
Your attenuation is 24dB meaning that your line isnt long and if you are on adsl2+ then IMHO you should be syncing much nearer to 16Mb on adsl2+ (depends which ISP you are with).. but your line is capable of speeds up to around 18Mb.
(see here for approx estimate).

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Oops stop - just noticed that you are a non-UK resident and in Greece.  Sorry when I wrote my  post last night I wrongly assumed that you were on a BT line. Therefore bRAS profiles will certainly not be applicable in your case.

From what information Ive just looked up - you are on a fixed rate 768 Kbps line.  This means that your line is set to a maximum 768/192 service.  Your stats are very good and the above info applies if you which to upgrade the speed on your line. 

Just noticed erics also posted whilst I was looking up info on Greece ISPs - he probably didnt realise that either.
[edit again] Your post also crossed whilst I was making mine

[roseway]

Yes, sorry, I didn't realise that you were in Greece, bezoss.

Eric

[bezoss]

Yes, sorry, I didn't realise that you were in Greece, bezoss.

Eric

Thu, 2007-05-17 13:57:49 - LCP down.
Thu, 2007-05-17 13:57:52 - Initialize LCP.
Thu, 2007-05-17 13:57:52 - LCP is allowed to come up.
Thu, 2007-05-17 13:57:55 - PAP authentication success


sometimes i see this...and i dont understand why the line is down.