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[tonyappuk]

That's the theory, robinsteele, and it was introduced even with Videoplus on the old analogue services. The problem is that the codes that should control the timings to cater for previous overruns, are not always updated and some services may have not signed up to the scheme. My PVR adds 2 minutes before and after the EPG times but even that's not enough some times and I think I might go to 10 mins too.
Tony

[jazz]

I agree it's intensely annoying if you miss a couple of minutes at the end of a prog.  I assume the time signal for switching on the next prog must also act as an "off switch" for the current prog which is rather annoying. 

However with some PVRs if you move away from the standard setting and add minutes "fore and aft" as you suggest the PVR will no longer time shift automatically (ie if the prog is move back an hour or re-scheduled to another day you still end up recording the original time period and not the prog you wanted).  It may be worth checking your manual before deciding on the best way out.

[robinsteele]

If only ITV Digital could find a backer and make a return.Ive still got my original card,an elvis programmer and the MKF software,oh and the box

[roseway]

I've got a Topfield PVR, and after two attempts at retuning I'm a little concerned that I might lose some channels. Dave and Dave+1 appeared at channels 1006 and 1008, but there is a message superimposed on the screen saying that they are relocated lower down, so I should retune. However, after two rescans, they are still stubbornly at 1006/8. Doing the same on my TV set (which has its own Freeview tuner) results in those channels being relocated as they should be, so I fear that the Toppy will lose them.

[broadstairs]

Eric your Topfield is suffering from the NIT problem I suspect, this is very similar to the scenario that I have with my set top box. I'd contact the support for your PVR and see when they are releasing an update to fix it.

[roseway]

Thanks Stuart

[tonyappuk]

And also keep a regular watch on http://www.dtg.org.uk/retailer/download_schedule.pl for over air updates.
Tony

[roseway]

Thanks for that link Tony. It led me to a downloadable upgrade which is supposed to fix the problem.

[tonyappuk]

Glad to be able to help
Tony

[roseway]

Just to let you know that the upgrade was successful. The procedure for upgrading via a PC and a downloaded file is a bit tortuous, and you have to follow every detail in the instructions, but it worked. A rescan after the upgrade located all the channels at their correct positions.

So thanks again for the help.

[tonyappuk]

Glad it worked Eric, I will probably have to do the same (with the PC) if they don't broadcast an over air download before March 25th. when Rowridge channels change. Until then I shan't rescan.
Tony

[tonyappuk]

Just to report that I've successfully upgraded my Digihome PVR80, a Vestel produced machine, using a laptop and a downloaded bin file of the latest software (5.7). As Eric has previously said it's a bit torturous but OK if you follow the instructions. Now I'm already for the 25th. March Rowridge channel changes.
Tony

[roseway]

Excellent

[robinsteele]

Is itv4+1 on the go yet.I can get dave+1 on my two boxes,but aint found that yet.

[roseway]

I just did a rescan on my PC TV card, and there's no sign of ITV4+1 here.