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Author Topic: The Treadmill Of Doom  (Read 10872 times)

2pods

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The Treadmill Of Doom
« on: February 06, 2007, 08:23:09 PM »

Since I've moved to Zen, everything has been good.
As it's a new ISP for me, I've been keeping an eye on the router (Draytek 2600g) stats etc.

So it has come to pass that, if my better half's Reebok TR3 treadmill is being used, my sync speed drops from 716000 to 640000 and my SNR drops from 11-12 to 4  :o

But wait, there's more !
If the speed or incline is adjusted the connection is dropped completely  ???
There is a wireless link in the TR3 for pulse belts and the like, but this is never used. After the treadmill is stopped I reboot the router and everything is back to normal.

The router and the infernal machine are in adjacent rooms ( very handy for comments like "You're killing my internet connection"  :P )

Is this the weirdest adsl prob yet, or does anyone have a weirder one ?

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Re: The Treadmill Of Doom
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2007, 08:42:20 PM »

>> "You're killing my internet connection"


Certainly not heard of that one before - One excuse not to excercise  ;)

Would be interesting to hear others experiences on max weirdness though.


My connection is a bit too boring - constant 8128 sync with 7dB att and with a steady 13 or 14dB  SNR Margin.
The most exciting thing mines ever done is hit 16.5 dB for a few hours on friday last week (dont know why)

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Re: The Treadmill Of Doom
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2007, 02:38:22 AM »

Working for an ISP we get these all the time. I had one this week where a customers router knocked off at 6.01 AM every saturday exactly, lowering sync for 3 days, rinse and repeat every week.

An openreach engineer sat in a van with a radar gun identified a neigbours house as the source of interference, their teenage son's radio alarm clock going off for his weekend paper round....

Another popular one over xmas was fairy lights dropping linespeed by anything from 8mbit right down to 288kbps.

Basically anything that has a motor or produces an electronic pulse (REIN) can seriously mess up the delicate signals going down your copper wires.
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Re: The Treadmill Of Doom
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2007, 07:34:20 AM »

I've seen a few reports about treadmills doing this. But I'm not sure what you can do about it if it's 'er indoors using the treadmill. ;)

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Re: The Treadmill Of Doom
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2007, 09:19:16 AM »

> An openreach engineer sat in a van with a radar gun

How did you get openreach to do that? My SNR is weird and I'd love to know why!!

http://home.chrishodder.co.uk/mrtg/
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Re: The Treadmill Of Doom
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2007, 07:18:51 PM »

Luck on the customers part and having an anal retentive engineer.

Engineer happened to go out initially, tested and everything was fine, nipped to exchange and back and fault was occuring but they couldn't locate the fault. They ended up arrangeing a REIN specialist (fella with a radar gun)

The customer in question did have an enhanced care line, meaning out of hours visits were possible, and BTW agree a 48 hour resolve service level agreement - this likely had something to do with it but I'll never get 'em to admit it :(
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Re: The Treadmill Of Doom
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2007, 05:35:32 PM »

I've just realised that BT will see these treadmill drops etc as faults and drop my sync down  :o
I've just been rebooting after the treadmill is off to get my usual sync speed back.

What happens if I put the router off before the treadmill starts , will this be read as a drop ?
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Re: The Treadmill Of Doom
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2007, 06:31:54 PM »

PS Off topic, but 2pods.... nice musicman bass in your avatar ;D
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Re: The Treadmill Of Doom
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2007, 06:45:42 PM »

PS Off topic, but 2pods.... nice musicman bass in your avatar ;D

It was mine for about ten years from new, a 20th Anniversary model.
I bought it locally and used it right up until two years ago, when I had to stop playing.
But a bass like this needs used, so I regretfully sold it to my replacement along with my Ashdown Mini stack (2 x Mini8 cabs and a Evo 500 head.)
So the bass is still gigging, even if I'm not  :)

I eventually weakened and bought an Ibanez SDR Prestige and a EA 1amp combo, but alas still can't gig.
Like your bass too.
Always been partial to blue basses  :)

I had beter change the avatar, eh

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Re: The Treadmill Of Doom
« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2007, 06:57:10 PM »

Cool - mine's a bit of a gem really - it's an Ibanez also, but it was a cheap one..  but must have been made in just the right way, because it plays like a dream :)

As you can probably tell, an Ashdown combo too.. love the sound of them. Sorry to hear you had to stop playing, that must have be a real wrench for you to sell such a georgeous instrument.

> I had beter change the avatar, eh

Noo... brings a bit of class to the place ;)
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Re: The Treadmill Of Doom
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2007, 07:30:40 PM »

I was gonna tell you I swopped it for the treadmill  :D

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Re: The Treadmill Of Doom
« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2007, 07:42:20 PM »

ROFL ;D
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Re: The Treadmill Of Doom
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2007, 08:38:40 PM »

So what do you think I should do ?
Turn the router off when the bloomin' machine is on, or just continue to reboot ?

I've been told in no uncertain terms that there will not be any periods of three consecutive running machine (got fed up typing treadmill  ;D) free days  ::)

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Re: The Treadmill Of Doom
« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2007, 07:47:00 AM »

I guess the best thing would be to turn the router off before the treadmill starts up, so it never sees the reduced sync speed or instability. Perhaps some delicate domestic negotiation will be called for - can I suggest a few subtle asides about marriage and treadmills? ;D

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Re: The Treadmill Of Doom
« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2007, 09:04:09 AM »

Agreed - most routers have a disconnect option in the config pages, if you use this then power off it should register as a user requested disconnect rather than a lost carrier type disconnect.

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