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[Hudson]

Just as i hit the post on the comments about it not being my neigbours i could here upstairs banging around as normal !!. So i went up stairs explained the problem  and asked if they had turned anything on  at the time of my resync and got the thats your problem mate and the door in my face.

Might not be them, but it seems too coincadental.

[jid]

Just as i hit the post on the comments about it not being my neigbours i could here upstairs banging around as normal !!. So i went up stairs explained the problem  and asked if they had turned anything on  at the time of my resync and got the thats your problem mate and the door in my face.

Might not be them, but it seems too coincadental.

Hmmm what a Pain!!!.....

I don't really know what else to suggest? I am sure kitz will be along to suggest something?
Have you tried the Radio trick?
http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/rein.htm

[Hudson]

No you have been more than helpfull, It is greatly appreciated.

I'm going to move the router to the other end of the apartment tonight away from the living spaces,there is 4 living rooms all next to each other within a relativly small area. Also the BT master socket is in the bedroom.
I currently have a 20 metre rj11 cable running to where the PC is so i could monitor the router for dropped syncs when the problem first started.

[jid]

No you have been more than helpfull, It is greatly appreciated.

I'm going to move the router to the other end of the apartment tonight away from the living spaces,there is 4 living rooms all next to each other within a relativly small area. Also the BT master socket is in the bedroom.
I currently have a 20 metre rj11 cable running to where the PC is so i could monitor the router for dropped syncs when the problem first started.

It could be the 20metre extension picking up interference if its the thin type?

[Hudson]

Yeah i did have, but when the first problem  started over 12 weeks ago, my ISP advised me that my router was on its way out so i bought a new router (netgear DG384pn) RJ11 cable and Filtered face plate.

The RJ11 cable is this type but longer.

http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=108504

[jid]

Yeah i did have, but when the first problem  started over 12 weeks ago, my ISP advised me that my router was on its way out so i bought a new router (netgear DG384pn) RJ11 cable and Filtered face plate.

The RJ11 cable is this type but longer.

http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=108504

Try a shorter cable via the master socket, I know it is in the bedroom?

Can you manage with wireless to monitor it?

[Hudson]

Yeah once i have sorted a few things out im will set the wireless side up and move the router back into the bedroom with the rj11 cable that came in the box.

Gotta be worth a try

[jid]

Yeah once i have sorted a few things out im will set the wireless side up and move the router back into the bedroom with the rj11 cable that came in the box.

Gotta be worth a try

Always worth a try.

I had my router in the master downstairs for weeks while Tiscali moaned and complained!

Didn't get anywhere and proved my extensions are all fine in good working order

[kitz]

>> got the thats your problem mate and the door in my face.


Nice!


>> move the router back into the bedroom

May be worth a try.. and also some other locations if possible.
Obviously I dont know the layouts of the flats.. but the fact your other neighbour did have a problem that later vanished and yours has started makes you wonder if an offending item causing the problem has been relocated.

A neighbours portable TV is something that weve had on these forums in the past that has been found to have been the culprit.  A neighbours PC monitor was another that was fairly recent.   However saying that both those items continued to throw out EMI whilst they were switched on which made the tracking down with the radio trick a bit easier.

Because this is happening as burst noise, then the radio isnt going to be too sucessful in being able to pick it up, since normally you walk around using the radio to hone in..  but if the noise isnt there for a continous period of time, then it makes it extremely difficult to pinpoint :/ 

[Hudson]

Cheers for the help gentlemen 


I have now moved the router to the bedroom on a shorter RJ11 cable and i have been sync'd all day at

Noise Margin:     11.1   dB
Connection Rate:  1184  Kbps
Line Attenuation: 63.5  dB
Power:            15.7  dBm


The power level has increased from

Noise Margin:     13.2   dB
Connection Rate:  800  Kbps
Line Attenuation: 63.5  dB
Power:            13.9  dBm.


Also on router stats, what is the diffrence between the the noise margin graph and the RX noise graph ?

[jid]

Cheers for the help gentlemen 


I have now moved the router to the bedroom on a shorter RJ11 cable and i have been sync'd all day at

Noise Margin:     11.1   dB
Connection Rate:  1184  Kbps
Line Attenuation: 63.5  dB
Power:            15.7  dBm


The power level has increased from

Noise Margin:     13.2   dB
Connection Rate:  800  Kbps
Line Attenuation: 63.5  dB
Power:            13.9  dBm.


Also on router stats, what is the diffrence between the the noise margin graph and the RX noise graph ?

No probs, nice to see the sync speed is back to normal again

[Hudson]

Damn though we where getting somewhere there, but just had another resync ay the dreaded 7.30 pm.


My neighbours above me are out as well, the mystery deepens !!!!

[jid]

Damn though we where getting somewhere there, but just had another resync ay the dreaded 7.30 pm.


My neighbours above me are out as well, the mystery deepens !!!!

Hmmm?

Are there any lights at all coming on at this time?

Faulty Transformers are also an issue I believe?

[Hudson]

I'm getting full sync with the exchange and all lights on the router stay light, but the noise level drops to 0db and re-syncs and half the speed and a higher snr, also the power level decreases.

Current stats are.

Noise Margin:     13.9   dB
Connection Rate:  672  Kbps
Line Attenuation: 63.5  dB
Power:            13.1  dBm

My ISP would like to make an appointment for a BT engineer to visit again, but as the problem only happens out of hours, how likely is he to find a fault ?

Hudson

[kitz]

Excellent news, new location is hopefully further away from whatever it is.  I'll keep my fingers crossed for you that things remain that way tonight.


RX (Received) is the downstream SNR Margin.
TX (Transmit) is the upstream SNR Margin.
Both are different figures and can fluctuate independently.

Not sure why youre not getting full downstream power, there are times when the dslam will attempt to turn it down to avoid crosstalk.  I dont know much more than that though Im afraid.


>>> Damn though we where getting somewhere there, but just had another resync ay the dreaded 7.30 pm.

DAMN, DAMN DAMN didnt see that until I'd started my reply above... whats the new resync speed?


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>> Cheers for the help gentlemen

Does that include ladies too