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Author Topic: router build need help with hardware for it  (Read 41202 times)

mtlathome

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router build need help with hardware for it
« on: April 05, 2025, 10:19:16 PM »

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Alex Atkin UK

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Re: router build need help with hardware for it
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2025, 03:10:29 PM »

OpenWRT has better QoS but last I checked was a PITA to keep updated on PC hardware as its not designed for in-place package upgrades like a standard PC OS (or pfSense/OPNsense).

That said, are you sure you even need QoS on a connection that fast?  Although it tends to be upstream bandwidth that is more important.  Maxing out the CPU on the router with QoS on most likely will be worse than having QoS off.
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Re: router build need help with hardware for it
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2025, 01:01:49 AM »

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Re: router build need help with hardware for it
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2025, 09:13:48 PM »

I still need QoS for gaming, as I'm still experiencing some bufferbloat

Are you absolutely sure its buffer bloat?  Prioritising traffic should make zero difference if the connection is not maxed out.
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mtlathome

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Re: router build need help with hardware for it
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2025, 09:45:19 PM »

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Re: router build need help with hardware for it
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2025, 09:09:25 AM »

I think a few of us have this kind of setup, provided you aren't too paranoid about energy usage then why not have a massively over-powered router  ;D ?

I have a very similar setup to you, I have 3 Unifi WAP's (in the process of moving them to Openwrt) a whole bunch of gizmos, a houseful of gamers, unfortunately currently no fibre here.

I went from pfSense to OPNsense when I upgraded, I think Alex is right - it is easier to maintain on a PC platform.  Keeping OPNsense updated is easy and the regular updates will give it a long life

If your unit is passive watch out for the enclosures with the small heat sinks - I have read they get warm

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Re: router build need help with hardware for it
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2025, 09:09:02 PM »

OpenWRT has better QoS but last I checked was a PITA to keep updated on PC hardware as its not designed for in-place package upgrades like a standard PC OS (or pfSense/OPNsense).

That said, are you sure you even need QoS on a connection that fast?  Although it tends to be upstream bandwidth that is more important.  Maxing out the CPU on the router with QoS on most likely will be worse than having QoS off.

As long as your ok being limited to 1gb disk space which is fine on the tiny 4GB SSD I have in my router/PC, The Attended Sysupgrade and or owut make it pretty easy. it saves a backup of your config and  compiles a upgrade image containing all the packages you use with your settings.

The Simplest SQM Queueing with a slight limit to my max speed for me takes me from C to A+ on buffer bloat on my 900Mbps down / 300Mbps up connection.  I get about 880 down / 315 up with the SQM on and less than 5 ms ping jitter under load down from 25ms without.
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Re: router build need help with hardware for it
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2025, 05:40:39 AM »

Just a quick update — I ended up buying a Topton N100 and paired it with DDR5 RAM and a 500MB M.2 SSD. I installed OpenWRT by plugging the M.2 into my main PC and using BalenaEtcher to flash the image.
It took me about 20 minutes to configure the network, with some help from ChatGPT. It’s now been up and running for just over a week, and everything has been working great. No issues with gaming performance, and thanks to SQM, I’m getting more out of my connection.
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Re: router build need help with hardware for it
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2025, 11:15:21 AM »

Nice job with your build. OpenWrt with Cake-qos is great! Well actually, Cake on any setup is great!

With beefy hardware you can set any number of Cake configs.
I have two 2.5Gbe nics, and use this config:

tc qdisc replace dev lan0 root cake ingress besteffort wash nat memlimit 2Gb
tc qdisc replace dev wan0 root cake egress diffserv4 nat memlimit 2Gb

Have fun  ;D