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[blairhartley]

Lucky enough to have FTTP despite living in the middle of nowhere.  All good.

Since Openreach enabled us, they've quoted a maximum upload speed of 220Mbps... yet my ISP doesn't offer it, nor do any others I've looked at.  Assuming this isn't an OR error, any ideas where the disparity comes from?

[Alex Atkin UK]

Lucky enough to have FTTP despite living in the middle of nowhere.  All good.

Since Openreach enabled us, they've quoted a maximum upload speed of 220Mbps... yet my ISP doesn't offer it, nor do any others I've looked at.  Assuming this isn't an OR error, any ideas where the disparity comes from?

I believe it is only offered for business packages, not residential.

[j0hn]

Lucky enough to have FTTP despite living in the middle of nowhere.  All good.

Since Openreach enabled us, they've quoted a maximum upload speed of 220Mbps... yet my ISP doesn't offer it, nor do any others I've looked at.  Assuming this isn't an OR error, any ideas where the disparity comes from?

Have a look at the Openreach FTTP price list and see the massive difference in price and connection fee between 1000/115 and 1000/220
It has a £500+vat connection fee.

That's the prices Openreach charge the provider. You'll pay more.

Business providers like Cerberus sell it. It's very expensive.

[blairhartley]

Thanks both for your replies... makes sense (though still frustrating).

[dee.jay]

Only way to go above that is a point-to-point ethernet service such as Openreach EAD (Ethernet Access Direct). The markup on that for Openreach is phenomenal, so this is why you will never see a symmetrical or high upload PON based FTTP product.

[adslmax]

Lucky enough to have FTTP despite living in the middle of nowhere.  All good.

Since Openreach enabled us, they've quoted a maximum upload speed of 220Mbps... yet my ISP doesn't offer it, nor do any others I've looked at.  Assuming this isn't an OR error, any ideas where the disparity comes from?

FTTP 1000/220 are very expensive on the business grade monthly exc vat below

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BTW FTTP 40/10 Market A £37.00
BTW FTTP 40/10 Market B £37.00
BTW FTTP 80/20 Market A £40.50
BTW FTTP 80/20 Market B £40.50
BTW FTTP 160/30 Market B £49.50
BTW FTTP 220/20 Market B £55.00
BTW FTTP 330/30 Market B £66.50
BTW FTTP 550/75 Market B £95.50
BTW FTTP 500/165 Market B £181.50
BTW FTTP 1000/115 Market B £140.50
BTW FTTP 1000/220 Market B £274.00


[j0hn]

FTTP 1000/220 are very expensive on the business grade monthly exc vat below

Code: [Select]

BTW FTTP 40/10 Market A £37.00
BTW FTTP 40/10 Market B £37.00
BTW FTTP 80/20 Market A £40.50
BTW FTTP 80/20 Market B £40.50
BTW FTTP 160/30 Market B £49.50
BTW FTTP 220/20 Market B £55.00
BTW FTTP 330/30 Market B £66.50
BTW FTTP 550/75 Market B £95.50
BTW FTTP 500/165 Market B £181.50
BTW FTTP 1000/115 Market B £140.50
BTW FTTP 1000/220 Market B £274.00


No context here. From reading your post for a second I though you were posting BT Wholesale prices.

That's a single providers price.
https://faelix.net/connectivity/adsl-fttc-fttp/
They charge £140.50 for 1000/115 

[adslmax]

UnchainedISP SoGea, SoGfast and FTTP also on expensive side but their service is top class, always excellent support and service feel like a business grade! But I was surprise to see Faelix are way too expensive ISP.

[dee.jay]

And here I am burning £120 a month between AAISP and Starlink.

Tempted to bin AAISP and just go full L2TP at this point, would save a few quid

[Alex Atkin UK]

Don't know about Starlink but I've had tons of problems with L2TP over Three 5G.  It makes my whole connection unstable if the L2TP is unstable, because the firewall is constantly bouncing. 

Although I did notice pfSense was set to reset all states on loss of a WAN instead of just states for the connection that dropped, so it may have been that which was the bigger problem.

Another problem you wouldn't have though is pfSense doesn't seem to support L2TP over PPPoE, it only lets you choose real NIC interfaces in the L2TP configuration.  I ended up downgrading L2TP to the Lite package, so its there if Zen have any routing issues and for general testing.

[bogof]

https://faelix.net/connectivity/adsl-fttc-fttp/
They charge £140.50 for 1000/115 

I piddy da fool paying £140.50/month for a Zen backhaul connection!

[Alex Atkin UK]

I piddy da fool paying £140.50/month for a Zen backhaul connection!

To be fair, the problems but be a minority or Zen would have been forced to stop the migration entirely by now.  Of course that price is still daylight robbery either way.

[adslmax]

Why is Zen FTTP so expensive than rest of other ISPs?

[Alex Atkin UK]

Why is Zen FTTP so expensive than rest of other ISPs?

These are business services by a reseller it seems, residential is £55/month.