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Author Topic: Bonded lines and poor WiFi calling, anyone have the same. AAISP  (Read 12773 times)

bignose2

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Hi,

Been with AAISP bonded lines for a few years now, internet is great, double speed, all good.

But quite often I do find WiFi calling breaks up, sometime to the point it cuts off & simply too broken to use.

95% of the time its OK & with friend family tend to use whatsapp voice & that is OK.

Increasingly (it feels like) that 5% seems to happen on the really important calls & end up using the land line

Have asked tech a while ago, they adjusted "filter", I thought slightly better but still happens.
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Regrettably this is an issue with Wifi-Calling because it was never designed to work with a bonded service but a single connection sending the data which can result in what's happening, audio cutting etc. I've applied a 95% filter for both lines to try and give more headroom for VOIP but I suspect this might not make much difference due to the way Wifi-Calling works conflicting to bonding which allows all traffic to come across multiple lines acting as one.
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They have suggested removing 1 incoming line temp but as is so intermattant & just impossible to test as could go days OK.

Has anyone experienced this, also when they say VOIP in general, that must be a big problem. I don't really use VOIP, I assume WhatsApp is pure internet?

I am seriously thinking changing to just load balancing, appartantly they can do that with the firebrick, not ideal, would still be good & don't really need the full 140mb DL, 70Mbps+ is fine, trouble is upload is 24Mb max (12mb + 12mb) & that is not so good.

Why can't rural'ish areas get FTTP quicker, waited ages for FTTC, I know its coming but always the last! one day might even get a mobile signal, just been waiting 30 years for that. Sorry rant over, all these things have been a pain recently

Any experience or advise, would be good to know if somehow wifi calling been OK but of course majority have a mobile signal as home/office.


 


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dee.jay

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Re: Bonded lines and poor WiFi calling, anyone have the same. AAISP
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2023, 12:50:00 PM »

Funnily enough I had bonded AAISP lines at one point and I was massively disappointed, a lot of things I need to download simply just did not work at all with the solution being to use one line for most things. I binned one line off within a month or two of moving my 2nd line to AAISP. I had a Firebrick (which I did not like at all) and all the recommended configuration too.
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Re: Bonded lines and poor WiFi calling, anyone have the same. AAISP
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2023, 08:20:25 PM »

The flip side is load balancing is getting increasingly problematic as it upsets sites using CAPTCHAs, they tend to trigger when the IP changes and a couple of sites I had to force down a single WAN as they wouldn't pass the test at all.  As the problem spread I switched to load balancing Steam IP addresses specifically, of course its not a big deal for me as my connections are both Gigabit to begin with.

I suppose its possible it might not happen so much if both IPs are from the same ISP, have no way to test that.
« Last Edit: August 12, 2023, 08:22:54 PM by Alex Atkin UK »
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Re: Bonded lines and poor WiFi calling, anyone have the same. AAISP
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2023, 01:05:35 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2023, 10:45:25 PM »

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Re: Bonded lines and poor WiFi calling, anyone have the same. AAISP
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2023, 08:33:50 AM »

Yes, that is what I did in the end - i.e. policy what needed balancing.

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Re: Bonded lines and poor WiFi calling, anyone have the same. AAISP
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2023, 10:29:05 AM »

There must be technical issues around such issues - ie where your traffic enters and exits the internet via a single IP address, but with the bonding happening on the transport between the sites?
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Re: Bonded lines and poor WiFi calling, anyone have the same. AAISP
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2023, 11:49:53 AM »

There must be technical issues around such issues - ie where your traffic enters and exits the internet via a single IP address, but with the bonding happening on the transport between the sites?

If the wifi calling is relying on Layer 2 networking, there is no real work around.
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Re: Bonded lines and poor WiFi calling, anyone have the same. AAISP
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2023, 12:49:04 PM »

If the wifi calling is relying on Layer 2 networking, there is no real work around.
I might be misunderstanding, but I thought all mobile phone provider WiFi calling must be layer 3 - it's routed via users own WiFi connections to whatever internet access is available.  Layer 2 would imply some kind of proprietary arrangement which I don't think exists.
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Re: Bonded lines and poor WiFi calling, anyone have the same. AAISP
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2023, 11:30:49 PM »

WiFi calling brings up a VPN between phone and mobile network so at least layer 3 and potentially layer 4 to traverse NAT.