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[adslmax]

For the first time my SoGEA 80/20 has dropped from 79999K to 79681K since FTTC installed in 2014. I believed the cabinet is now overfilled with crosstalk.

Stats recorded 18 Jun 2023 14:43:47

DSLAM type / SW version:   BDCM:0xc190 (193.144) / v0xc190
Modem/router firmware:     AnnexA version - A2pvfbH043q.d26u
DSL mode:                  VDSL2 Profile 17a
Status:                    Showtime
Uptime:                    1 day 1 hour 42 min 42 sec
Resyncs:                   0 (since 18 Jun 2023 13:31:15)
         
            Downstream   Upstream
Line attenuation (dB):     12.5      0.0
Signal attenuation (dB):   Not available on VDSL2      
Connection speed (kbps):   79681      20000
SNR margin (dB):           6.0      6.1
Power (dBm):               12.6      0.4
Interleave depth:          8      1
INP:                       49.00      0
G.INP:                     Enabled      Not enabled
Vectoring status:          5 (VECT_UNCONFIGURED)      

RSCorr/RS (%):             0.0000      0.0000
RSUnCorr/RS (%):           0.0000      0.0000
ES/hour:                   0      0

xdslctl info --pbParams
xdslctl: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Last Retrain Reason:    0
Last initialization procedure status:   0
Max:    Upstream rate = 20700 Kbps, Downstream rate = 79762 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 20000 Kbps, Downstream rate = 79681 Kbps
Bearer: 1, Upstream rate = 0 Kbps, Downstream rate = 0 Kbps
Discovery Phase (Initial) Band Plan
US: (7,32) (871,1205) (1972,2782)
DS: (33,859) (1216,1961) (2800,4095)
Medley Phase (Final) Band Plan
US: (7,32) (871,1205) (1972,2782)
DS: (33,859) (1216,1961) (2800,4095)
VDSL Port Details               Upstream                Downstream
Attainable Net Data Rate:        20700 kbps              79762 kbps
Actual Aggregate Tx Power:          0.4 dBm                12.6 dBm

Bearer 0
INP:            49.00           0.00
INPRein:        0.00            0.00
delay:          0               0
PER:            0.00            6.13
OR:             0.01            33.91
AgR:            79762.69        20033.74

                        Bearer 1
INP:            4.00            0.00
INPRein:        4.00            0.00
delay:          3               0
PER:            16.06           0.01
OR:             95.62           0.01
AgR:            95.62   0.01

Bitswap:       1/1           2/2

[adslmax]

Updated:

Going to placed an order with G.fast 160/30 next month as my SoGEA 80/20 has expired contract next week. This time I am going to staying with 160/30. 

[g3uiss]

Really thought you couldn’t afford g.fast

[spudgun]

With all the electrical storms,  I would pay no attention to line stats today as they are unlikely to be accurate and need to be taken with a massive pinch of salt

[adslmax]

Really thought you couldn’t afford g.fast

Sky offer good price Ultrafast 145 for £30 a month while SoGEA 80/20 cost £39.99 per month - £10 a month less for double speed!

[adslmax]

With all the electrical storms,  I would pay no attention to line stats today as they are unlikely to be accurate and need to be taken with a massive pinch of salt

Nothing to do with that! I have last week didn't affect the line stats. I can see line attenuation increasing from 12.0 to 12.5dB

[XGS_Is_On]

318 kbps. 0.4%.

[adslmax]

318 kbps. 0.4%.

Will it affect G.fast further reduced?

[Alex Atkin UK]

Nothing to do with that! I have last week didn't affect the line stats. I can see line attenuation increasing from 12.0 to 12.5dB

0.5dB is margin of error/normal variation in my opinion, completely meaningless change.  Remember, the temperature of the copper will change the attenuation, its basic physics.

[adslmax]

I have swapped over from Zyxel Router to Billion Router after powered down for 30 minutes to avoid DLM trigger

Stats recorded 18 Jun 2023 22:43:36

DSLAM type / SW version:   BDCM:0xc190 (193.144) / v0xc190
Modem/router firmware:     AnnexA version - A2pv6F039g1.d24m
DSL mode:                  VDSL2 Profile 17a
Status:                    Showtime
Uptime:                     2 hours 42 min 27 sec
Resyncs:                   0 (since 18 Jun 2023 20:10:03)
         
            Downstream   Upstream
Line attenuation (dB):     12.3      0.0
Signal attenuation (dB):   Not available on VDSL2      
Connection speed (kbps):   79811      20000
SNR margin (dB):           6.4      9.5
Power (dBm):               12.5      -0.9
Interleave depth:          8      1
INP:                       49.00      0
G.INP:                     Enabled      Not enabled
Vectoring status:          5 (VECT_UNCONFIGURED)      

RSCorr/RS (%):             0.0000      0.0000
RSUnCorr/RS (%):           0.0000      0.0000
ES/hour:                   0      0

adsl info --stats
adsl: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Last Retrain Reason:    0
Last initialization procedure status:   0
Max:    Upstream rate = 26002 Kbps, Downstream rate = 80518 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 20000 Kbps, Downstream rate = 79811 Kbps
Bearer: 1, Upstream rate = 0 Kbps, Downstream rate = 0 Kbps
Link Power State:       L0
Mode:                   VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile:          Profile 17a
TPS-TC:                 PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis:                U:ON /D:ON
Line Status:            No Defect
Training Status:        Showtime
                Down            Up
SNR (dB):        6.4             9.5
Attn(dB):        12.3            0.0
Pwr(dBm):        12.5           -0.9

Bearer 0
INP:            49.00           0.00
INPRein:        0.00            0.00
delay:          0               0
PER:            0.00            6.13
OR:             0.01            33.91
AgR:            79892.83        20033.74

                        Bearer 1
INP:            4.00            0.00
INPRein:        4.00            0.00
delay:          3               0
PER:            16.06           0.01
OR:             95.62           0.01
AgR:            95.62   0.01

Bitswap:        4/4             8/8

adsl info --pbParams
adsl: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Last Retrain Reason:    0
Last initialization procedure status:   0
Max:    Upstream rate = 26002 Kbps, Downstream rate = 80518 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 20000 Kbps, Downstream rate = 79811 Kbps
Bearer: 1, Upstream rate = 0 Kbps, Downstream rate = 0 Kbps
Discovery Phase (Initial) Band Plan
US: (7,32) (871,1205) (1972,2782)
DS: (33,859) (1216,1961) (2800,4063)
Medley Phase (Final) Band Plan
US: (7,32) (871,1205) (1972,2782)
DS: (33,859) (1216,1961) (2800,4063)
                  VDSL Port Details               Upstream                Downstream
Attainable Net Data Rate:           26002 kbps              80518 kbps
Actual Aggregate Tx Power:         -   0.9 dBm               12.5 dBm

[j0hn]

A reduction of less the an 1Mb/s on a line that achieves the maximum sync rate possible isn't really with mentioning.
Think how people on 1Mb/s ADSL feel about your complaining about a very insignificant reduction in sync speed.

The forum would get very boring if people posted every time their sync changed a little.

[adslmax]

A reduction of less the an 1Mb/s on a line that achieves the maximum sync rate possible isn't really with mentioning.
Think how people on 1Mb/s ADSL feel about your complaining about a very insignificant reduction in sync speed.

The forum would get very boring if people posted every time their sync changed a little.

Did you notice very large change in upstream from Max:    Upstream rate = 20700 Kbps to Max:    Upstream rate = 26002 Kbps (how strange that?) Also Line attenuation (dB):     12.3dB  is better than Zyxel

Billion 8800NL seem less errors than Zyxel router:

Since Link time = 1 days 17 hours 12 min 35 sec
FEC:            0               0
CRC:            0               4
ES:             0               5
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0

[tubaman]

Going to placed an order with G.fast 160/30 next month as my SoGEA 80/20 has expired contract next week. This time I am going to staying with 160/30. 

Don't you remember the misery it caused you last time you had G.fast, with its Seamless Rate Adaptation (SRA) and constantly changing sync rate? I'd have thought you'd be able to get a much better deal than £39.99 for 80/20, and aren't you eligible for a social tariff?
Please, please just stay away from G.fast!
 

[adslmax]

Not going to order G.fast will staying on with sogea for another 12 months with discretion offer

[adslmax]

Why it keeping getting reduced and reduced in sync rate?

Stats recorded 21 Jun 2023 02:28:02

DSLAM type / SW version:   BDCM:0xc190 (193.144) / v0xc190
Modem/router firmware:     AnnexA version - A2pv6F039g1.d24m
DSL mode:                  VDSL2 Profile 17a
Status:                    Showtime
Uptime:                     0 hour 27 min 31 sec
Resyncs:                   0 (since 21 Jun 2023 02:02:00)
         
            Downstream   Upstream
Line attenuation (dB):     12.2      0.0
Signal attenuation (dB):   Not available on VDSL2      
Connection speed (kbps):   77375      20000
SNR margin (dB):           6.4      9.5
Power (dBm):               12.5      -0.9
Interleave depth:          8      1
INP:                       47.00      0
G.INP:                     Enabled      Not enabled
Vectoring status:          5 (VECT_UNCONFIGURED)      

RSCorr/RS (%):             0.0000      0.0000
RSUnCorr/RS (%):           0.0000      0.0000
ES/hour:                   0      0

adsl info --stats
adsl: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Last Retrain Reason:    0
Last initialization procedure status:   0
Max:    Upstream rate = 25998 Kbps, Downstream rate = 78131 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 20000 Kbps, Downstream rate = 77375 Kbps
Bearer: 1, Upstream rate = 0 Kbps, Downstream rate = 0 Kbps
Link Power State:       L0
Mode:                   VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile:          Profile 17a
TPS-TC:                 PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis:                U:ON /D:ON
Line Status:            No Defect
Training Status:        Showtime
                Down            Up
SNR (dB):        6.4             9.5
Attn(dB):        12.2            0.0
Pwr(dBm):        12.5           -0.9

Bearer 0
INP:            47.00           0.00
INPRein:        0.00            0.00
delay:          0               0
PER:            0.00            6.13
OR:             0.01            33.91
AgR:            77454.67        20033.74

                        Bearer 1
INP:            4.50            0.00
INPRein:        4.50            0.00
delay:          3               0
PER:            16.06           0.01
OR:             79.68           0.01
AgR:            79.68   0.01

Bitswap:        2/2             0/0