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Author Topic: Fritzbox 7590 ax v2 no POTS  (Read 3095 times)

Kiza

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Fritzbox 7590 ax v2 no POTS
« on: March 06, 2023, 03:38:36 PM »

Just got a delivery of the above router as a replacement for a dead 7490.
I was surprised that a landline was not working so after some Googling came to conclusion that V2 does not support analogue landline anymore.
I would appreciate an advice of how to convert an existing POTS landline and import it into 7590 as an ip form. What FXO converter (the cheapest option) can be used to sort out the issue? Thanks!
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tubaman

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Re: Fritzbox 7590 ax v2 no POTS
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2023, 04:13:17 PM »

According to AVM's site the 7590 does support ADSL2 and VDSL so are you sure it's not just a config issue?
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Re: Fritzbox 7590 ax v2 no POTS
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2023, 04:55:50 PM »

According to AVM's site the 7590 does support ADSL2 and VDSL so are you sure it's not just a config issue?
There are 7590, 7590 ax v1 and 7590 ax v2. The first two have POTS hardware but v2 does not
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Re: Fritzbox 7590 ax v2 no POTS
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2023, 07:35:42 PM »

There are 7590, 7590 ax v1 and 7590 ax v2. The first two have POTS hardware but v2 does not

I'll have to take your word for that as every web resource I've looked at mentions DSL capability.
What type of DSL connection do you have so we can work out what you'd need?
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Re: Fritzbox 7590 ax v2 no POTS
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2023, 08:36:32 PM »

Though AVM is not specifying the version, I think he means that no dial tone is provided from the phone line port on the Fritzbox since it is not supported but yet internet is working fine.. but I could be completely wrong.

https://en.avm.de/products/comparing-avm-products/fritzbox/vdsladsl/
« Last Edit: March 06, 2023, 08:39:25 PM by mofa2020 »
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Kiza

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Re: Fritzbox 7590 ax v2 no POTS
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2023, 09:28:32 PM »

Vdsl is working fine, no problems at all.
It just does not support BT analogue landline telephone connection that I had on 7490.
And I need it to work
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Re: Fritzbox 7590 ax v2 no POTS
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2023, 10:48:43 PM »

What the basis for your conclusion?

Anyway, as far as I remember, V1 had thermal issues and so V2 was released (look at the housing of the two, more specifically the vents) to improve air circulation, unless I'm mistaking this for another model.
« Last Edit: March 06, 2023, 10:53:35 PM by Edinburgh_lad »
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Re: Fritzbox 7590 ax v2 no POTS
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2023, 03:23:44 AM »

https://boxmatrix.info/wiki/FRITZ!Box_7590_AX
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On 2022-02-01 AVM silently introduced the FRITZ!Box 7590 AX v2, which shares the same features as the v1, but without support for fixed line ISDN telephony and which does not have a FONS0 port any more.

What FXO converter (the cheapest option) can be used to sort out the issue? Thanks!

If you're wanting to connect old analog phones to a VoIP service then the Cisco PAP2T seems to be the cheapest but I'm a little concerned that its not been supported for years, so will it be secure?

Or if you mean it no longer does passthrough to allow DECT phones to use the analog line (can't find mention if this has gone too) there's maybe the Gigaset N300 IP?
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Re: Fritzbox 7590 ax v2 no POTS
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2023, 08:22:58 AM »

Vdsl is working fine, no problems at all.
It just does not support BT analogue landline telephone connection that I had on 7490.
And I need it to work

Ok, I'm still a little confused but are you wanting something that'll allow both VOIP and a BT POTS connection from the same handsets?
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Re: Fritzbox 7590 ax v2 no POTS
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2023, 11:23:59 AM »

https://boxmatrix.info/wiki/FRITZ!Box_7590_AX
If you're wanting to connect old analog phones to a VoIP service then the Cisco PAP2T seems to be the cheapest but I'm a little concerned that its not been supported for years, so will it be secure?

Or if you mean it no longer does passthrough to allow DECT phones to use the analog line (can't find mention if this has gone too) there's maybe the Gigaset N300 IP?
I just want to replicate missing analogue phone connection. So I would need, some sort of the interface, to connect BT landline in and for it to generate IP stream that can be recognised by 7590 as a phone service. That way I would be able to use existing DECT C4 handset and phone app as before. Hope this makes it clear
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Re: Fritzbox 7590 ax v2 no POTS
« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2023, 02:34:33 AM »

I just want to replicate missing analogue phone connection. So I would need, some sort of the interface, to connect BT landline in and for it to generate IP stream that can be recognised by 7590 as a phone service. That way I would be able to use existing DECT C4 handset and phone app as before. Hope this makes it clear

That would be seriously overkill and definitely not a cheap solution, compared to just getting a basic DECT base station.
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Re: Fritzbox 7590 ax v2 no POTS
« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2023, 09:02:41 AM »

That would be seriously overkill and definitely not a cheap solution, compared to just getting a basic DECT base station.

Agree, and hopefully you could pair the C4 handset to pretty much any DECT base?
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Re: Fritzbox 7590 ax v2 no POTS
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2023, 02:36:31 PM »

Agree, and hopefully you could pair the C4 handset to pretty much any DECT base?

AFAIK that's a main function of DECT, a standard that allows at least basic functionality of handsets on any DECT base station.

I paired a 1 handset Panasonic with a multi-handset base a while back and the only catch was having to have another fully powered base station to charge it, otherwise I would have kept using it as I like that handset.
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