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[111888]

Is this XF-1E micro filter safe to use with FTTC connections? Is it better to use it than the face plates that have the built in filters?

[RealAleMadrid]

@111888  The low pass filter is for the telephone connection only, the broadband signal is a direct connection so the XF-1e will work perfectly well on ADSL and VDSL lines. No danger at all.

Edit: I see you edited your post, I don't think it will be any better or worse than a faceplate filter.

[Alex Atkin UK]

The faceplate filters are fine.  In fact, changing the filter is usually going to make zero difference unless you have a very specific problem on the line, or the one you have is faulty.

[Edinburgh_lad]

The sync rate is much higher on my line when using this filter, rather than that 5c monstrosity that also has a design fault.

[RealAleMadrid]

@Edinburgh_lad  I have seen similar claims by posters on forums that their sync speed is better with one filter or another but as there is no filter on the xDSL signal path it is hard to believe there is any truth in them. There could be many other unrelated reasons for the sync speed to be different.

[Alex Atkin UK]

At least SOGEA can put this to rest.

What's the 5c design fault?  Worked fine on my line, I never saw a difference between various filters but then I have no extensions which is where a central filter can really help.

[Edinburgh_lad]

@Edinburgh_lad  I have seen similar claims by posters on forums that their sync speed is better with one filter or another but as there is no filter on the xDSL signal path it is hard to believe there is any truth in them. There could be many other unrelated reasons for the sync speed to be different.

Seriously. You should order one from Tandy and try yourself.

Fewer errors/less noise, too.

If you do order, please report back on your observations.

[Edinburgh_lad]

At least SOGEA can put this to rest.

What's the 5c design fault?  Worked fine on my line, I never saw a difference between various filters but then I have no extensions which is where a central filter can really help.

Every time I hoovered, the bloody thing came off. The choice was to stop hoovering nearby or to get a filter that connects to the test socket (ADSLNation) and so I chose the latter as I have an OCD about hoovering.

Obviously I could have been less vigorous with the hoover, but with an OCD, it's like to have to do the thing but not necessarily enjoying it.

[tubaman]

Seriously. You should order one from Tandy and try yourself.

Fewer errors/less noise, too.

If you do order, please report back on your observations.

Sounds like your 5c was defective if there is that much difference. Filter design will have some small effect as although it should in theory make no difference to the VDSL signal it must cause some loading on the line so will never be perfect.
I have an NTE5a Mk3 and would certainly recommend that as it screws together properly, unlike the 5c cost-cut version.

[111888]

The xf 1-e actually seemed to make my line less stable.

Reverted back to the built in filter. and seems fine now.

[Edinburgh_lad]

By the same logic: is your XF-1e defective?

[Edinburgh_lad]

Sounds like your 5c was defective if there is that much difference. Filter design will have some small effect as although it should in theory make no difference to the VDSL signal it must cause some loading on the line so will never be perfect.
I have an NTE5a Mk3 and would certainly recommend that as it screws together properly, unlike the 5c cost-cut version.

If your line is stable enough, then why not test with the XF-1e to see if there's a difference. This would then either confirm or refute what is theory.

[tubaman]

If your line is stable enough, then why not test with the XF-1e to see if there's a difference. This would then either confirm or refute what is theory.

Unfortunately the XF-1e would be of no use for me as I have star wired extensions that need a central filter to isolate them.

[Alex Atkin UK]

Every time I hoovered, the bloody thing came off. The choice was to stop hoovering nearby or to get a filter that connects to the test socket (ADSLNation) and so I chose the latter as I have an OCD about hoovering.

Obviously I could have been less vigorous with the hoover, but with an OCD, it's like to have to do the thing but not necessarily enjoying it.

Fair enough, mine was the opposite and was such a tight fit it was awkward to then remove it again particularly as when I had a second line they put them snug next to each other so I had to remove both to get the 5c off.