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[adslmax]

I can see virgin media now offering broadband stand alone with speed of 362/36 @ £15 a month for six months then 18 months at £30 in a 24 months contract with no set up fee. That's might help some people's. If I know this offering I will take it.

[GigabitEthernet]

Why is it pointless? We have had it in one of our remote offices, served it very well for the past few years and with another 4+ years until FTTP arrives it does the job fine

I don't know a single person who has had it and not had issues. It's useful for about 1% of customers, really pointless.

[spaace]

I don't know a single person who has had it and not had issues. It's useful for about 1% of customers, really pointless.

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[Alex Atkin UK]

Probably seen as pointless given the abysmally short reach that benefits those who can already get the full 80 anyway.

Of course by that logic WiFi is pointless because it doesn't have unlimited reach, copper ethernet is pointless because it "only" goes 100m.  There is no rationalising with people who think like that.

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Of course, clearly if everyone they know had issues then everyone with the service MUST have issues, because its not like issues can be regional or anything, or that people wont talk about a service that's working perfectly nearly as much.

[XGS_Is_On]

G.Fast is utterly pointless, I am astonished it is still for sale to be honest.

It's a stop-gap for people that want faster speeds but have no full-fibre option and don't want to use cable. Longer term it is indeed pointless but clearly it has some point for this user.

Can't we just be happy that he's happy and has the best connection at a good price? The technology he's using to get that connection doesn't matter.

[craigski]

There is no point '.' between the G & F on Openreach website, so maybe it is 'pointless' 

https://www.openreach.com/fibre-broadband/gfast-fibre-broadband

[dee.jay]

Of course by that logic WiFi is pointless because it doesn't have unlimited reach, copper ethernet is pointless because it "only" goes 100m.  There is no rationalising with people who think like that.

Absolutely - I wasn't endorsing that viewpoint. Would hardly be befitting of someone in my position...

[kitz]

There is no point '.'

Very witty     

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It sometimes causes problems with file structure. 
Same with g.inp, g.DMT etc

[fat jez]

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Two. My choice is full speed G.fast with Zen or Virgin Media. Much happier with G.fast, I've not had the best experiences with VM.

[dee.jay]

For all copper's faults - and crosstalk aside there's nothing inherently wrong with it. I'd be more than happy with 330 on full g.fast if it stayed at that speed. Would I change 330 G.fast to FTTP? I still would. Fibre is far superior any day of the week - but what do I know

[Alex Atkin UK]

I have a friend in Texas who hates Cable so much he is stuck with AT&T DSL (not sure what form, I suspect VDSL).  He'd jump at the chance of G.fast, but its not gonna happen.  He's basically had no connection for the last week due to them upgrading something.