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[neil]

The Phenomenon (2020) | Trailer HD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onEXmLX2ZZQ

The Phenomenon (2020) | FULL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0Kr1TwKhQk

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Have you watched it?

[neil]

Have you watched it?

yes

[Alex Atkin UK]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PD00QnQ3HO4

A bit painfully long-winded as usual, but rather relevant.

[neil]

[Alex Atkin UK]

It would be so easy to fake and shoot things entirely out of context.  The most mundane things look freaky in night vision or B&W.

Using things like RADAR to determine that something suddenly changed direction too fast, or is moving too fast, is like pinging a host on the Internet and saying the server MUST be down because you lost a couple of packets.  The technology being used to capture this stuff is not even close to good enough to be considered evidence.

Plus read the comments on the thunderf00t video, its largely considered that the military encourage this misunderstanding as it allows them to get funding they otherwise might not.

[neil]

It would be so easy to fake and shoot things entirely out of context.  The most mundane things look freaky in night vision or B&W.

Using things like RADAR to determine that something suddenly changed direction too fast, or is moving too fast, is like pinging a host on the Internet and saying the server MUST be down because you lost a couple of packets.  The technology being used to capture this stuff is not even close to good enough to be considered evidence.

Plus read the comments on the thunderf00t video, its largely considered that the military encourage this misunderstanding as it allows them to get funding they otherwise might not.

It's not just the USA but other countries and their air forces have faced such objects. Let me share some videos.
White House "This is not just an issue for the United States, but for the rest of the world"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65FKG3nou_o
Belgian Air Force
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2LmB6m_BNo
Brazilian Air Force
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1tYLbkYgnY
Japanese Air Force
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOI2NL-tLn0

[neil]

[Alex Atkin UK]

Just seems a huge waste of money, its not a "problem" unless these things actually cause air collisions and if that ever happened we'd have a lot more proof of what they are.

[neil]

[Alex Atkin UK]

The problem is they aren't just seemingly doing things which are "beyond what we can do", they are doing things that defy the laws of physics.  So at that point, its far easier to believe its bad tracking data, optical illusions due to atmospheric distortion, or outright faked, than our grasp on physics is somehow THAT flawed.