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[XGS_Is_On]

So I'm fortunate enough to have uncapped XGSPON now. Whatever's left from other folks on the PON I can draw on.

As the geeks may be aware XGSPON is symmetrical 10G with compulsory FEC taking it down to about 8.5G then the various overheads at Ethernet and IP layer.

I'm seeing 8.2-8.3 Gbit/s reliably. Bufferbloat is good - joys of 8.3G on a 10GbE port.

It just works and works well. Any questions I'll try and answer them however it's basically exactly the same as GPON just symmetrical and bigger numbers.

[Alex Atkin UK]

I forget, what alt-net are you on again?

[XGS_Is_On]

YouFibre via Netomnia.

[dee.jay]

YouFibre via Netomnia.

I am very encouraged to hear their network is strong even though you can pull 8.3Gb through it. As soon as it is available here I'll be signing up for 1Gbps symmetric, I cannot really justify 10Gbps at this point (not to say I can't afford it, but would have to spend a lot of time and effort upgrading everything else to support 10Gbps), however I applaud the trailblazers who are going that route.

[XGS_Is_On]

Yes, I didn't have the expense of upgrading anything as I made the decision to have 10GbE available to all wired devices when I put the home network in, which was lucky!

I have, however, brought in some 25G now, just to a couple of devices. I don't plan on going to 25G across the board for a while: those switches are expensive.

More likely I'll get 100G kit when 50GPON becomes a thing, so around 2025 when my contract is up.

[Alex Atkin UK]

I will be looking with curiosity to see if the the alt-nets have the sense to use NBASE-T ONTs.

My current, relatively cheap router, should be able to handle 2.5Gbit (although if it can handle this over PPP I'm not sure).

While its not essential and Gigabit symmetrical is really my aim, if they offered a 2Gbit or 2.5Gbit service that would be a really nice sweet spot for years to come I think.

Its rare I can even saturate 10Gbit on the LAN never mind WAN, as you need high-end NVMe drives at both ends as the normal affordable ones hit their SLC cache limit so fast that unless your file transfer is smaller than this cache, you might as well have just moved the file at a slower more consistent speed.

[dee.jay]

I just bought some new switches, all GbE with PoE for AP's. Somehow, I think I should have gone for 2.5GbE ones and kept up my tradition of having 2 x connections.

I suppose I could do 1000/1000 with YF and a slower package for failover...

Or another one of those £10 SIM cards

[Alex Atkin UK]

Yeah that's why I just went for it with the MS510TXUP.  It was a bit pricey, but I can't see it needing to replaced for a long long time, maybe never.

Incidentally I have:

• Netgear MS510TXUP (Server/NAS 10Gbit DAC, WiFi 2.5Gbit [PoE], Router 2.5Gbit [PoE], main PC 10Gbit and 10Gbit to other switches)
• Netgear MS510TXPP (Fibre to main switch 10Gbit, Gaming PC 10Gbit, Games Consoles, MiSTer Multisystem [PoE], Bluray player, TV, etc)
• Netgear GS110EMX (stuff that mostly doesn't need much bandwidth)

It happened this way as I started with the latter, and then upgraded as newer models came out, replacing existing unmanaged Gigabit switches.

[XGS_Is_On]

Steam appears to have a ~300MB/s limit in place which is probably a good idea given how their CDN works.
Nothing gets close to saturating the entire thing other than speedtests.

I'm starting to take advantage of it a bit more as time goes on. The port forwarding rules on the routers are getting more in number.

[Alex Atkin UK]

Steam appears to have a ~300MB/s limit in place

Yup, already seen that.

https://youtu.be/wWltASCJO-U?t=1067

[Weaver]

@Alex where did you get your latest switch from?
[apologies for going off-topic]

[Alex Atkin UK]

https://www.broadbandbuyer.com/products/42122-netgear-ms510txup-100eus/

It came in stock very briefly in February so I grabbed it at £571.21 in  (I wouldn't usually pay that much, but as this may last me a lifetime it was worth it), the price is creeping up due to stock availability.

The big deal was its relatively quiet with a high PoE budget, as there is nowhere in the house to put whiney cheaper ex-business switches, plus they don't support PoE++ which I figured might be useful in the future.

[XGS_Is_On]

Something I need to fix in my setup I reckon but pretty good.

[burakkucat]

Asymmetric DS/US ? 

[Alex Atkin UK]

Take any of it with a pinch of salt given the server might only have 10Gbit in total.

The only way to test 10Gbit is to fire up multiple concurrent tests to different servers and monitor the traffic at the router.