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[Weaver]

[Chrysalis]

Because many websites and services are still single stacked, kitz included.

Then all the isp's that are single stacked as well.

BT and sky are both double stacked but VM a massive isp is still single stacked.

[Weaver]

[Chrysalis]

[Alex Atkin UK]

I suspect this will go on forever, as CGNAT just allows ISPs to not care.

It doesn't help that there are still so many single-stack devices.  My VoIP box the N300 IP seems to be single stack which is insane when SIP especially benefits from not being behind NAT.

[Chrysalis]

It needs someone like google to make their services single stack IPv6, if that happened, I would expect to be almost a guarantee that within a very short time ISPs like VM have IPv6 rolled out to prevent a mass exodus of customers.

Then google could add SEO points for IPv6 which would make webmasters comply.

[Alex Atkin UK]

Which of course wont happen as it would be suicide for Google.

[Chrysalis]

Which of course wont happen as it would be suicide for Google.

I dont think it would be suicide, they are so big and important to people, people would switch ISP so they can continue using google services, but of course they would take a hit to their income which is probably why they wont pull the trigger, there has been talks of it in the past but it never happened.

[Weaver]

[gt94sss2]

[Chrysalis]

The above URL is https://youtu.be/iFvaqpW4vLA

Personally, I think that most people don't care about whether they are using IPv4 or IPv6 - only a few technically inclined users.

Probably true but thats because the big UK ISPs have scooped up IPv4 space so they have lots of it, but when thinking about the wider picture there is some ISPs forced to use CGNAT because they of course entered the game late and dont have enough and datacentres with critical shortage of IPv4 as well.  Most of the public is generally ignorant to these problems.

[Alex Atkin UK]

I know at least some VPS providers offer free IPv6 only and you pay extra for IPv4.  I suppose there is a possibility once this cost reaches breaking point that people might consider not paying it.

Although it appears you CAN host an IPv6 only site if you put it behind something like Cloudflares proxy service.  It will access the site over IPv6 then proxy both IPv4 and IPv6.

[Weaver]

[burakkucat]

[Alex Atkin UK]

<Nit picking mode on>
s/two internets/two internet protocols/
<Nit picking mode off>

Indeed.  I mean most people think "the Internet" is the content they can see, they have no clue or care for what is going on behind the scenes.