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Author Topic: FTTP Rollout on estate in Newark  (Read 30223 times)

nick9one1

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FTTP Rollout on estate in Newark
« on: May 06, 2022, 10:07:31 AM »

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Re: FTTP Rollout on estate in Newark
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2022, 10:17:50 AM »

Could they have used all the spare fibres back to the exchange from the local aggregation point?  Seems unlikely, not sure how much spare they have though.  If that was the case the question would be why they specifically chose THOSE roads to do?

Are they perhaps the furthest from the PCP so they did this to meet minimum speed requirements?
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Re: FTTP Rollout on estate in Newark
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2022, 11:15:52 AM »

Your local area is being FTTP'd under the 'Retro New Sites' (RNS) programme. A number of addresses on Blackbrook Rd have been captured under one of the FTTP surveys, but also a small cluster of them haven't, (the lower numbers, ie: No.1, 2, 3 etc).

I can only guess at this point, but it may be that there is no 'hook up' from the underground duct from the premises that have been surveyed, and your own duct on the premises that haven't been ?? There obviously is a duct path back in one direction or another, as you have copper cable already in place and all the ducts for this small area aggregate back at Beacon Hill Rd.

Like you say, absolutely nothing at all to do with the Cabinet, and I would humbly suggest this has been a simple oversight. I would certainly progress this again, as it should in theory be a quick-win for all parties as capacity isn't the issue. 

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Re: FTTP Rollout on estate in Newark
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2022, 05:09:24 PM »

Could they have used all the spare fibres back to the exchange from the local aggregation point?  Seems unlikely, not sure how much spare they have though.  If that was the case the question would be why they specifically chose THOSE roads to do?

Are they perhaps the furthest from the PCP so they did this to meet minimum speed requirements?

thats an interesting point. Although Blackbrook road is probably the furthest from the PCP. I get around 30Mbps on VDSL2


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Re: FTTP Rollout on estate in Newark
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2022, 05:16:09 PM »

Your local area is being FTTP'd under the 'Retro New Sites' (RNS) programme. A number of addresses on Blackbrook Rd have been captured under one of the FTTP surveys, but also a small cluster of them haven't, (the lower numbers, ie: No.1, 2, 3 etc).

I can only guess at this point, but it may be that there is no 'hook up' from the underground duct from the premises that have been surveyed, and your own duct on the premises that haven't been ?? There obviously is a duct path back in one direction or another, as you have copper cable already in place and all the ducts for this small area aggregate back at Beacon Hill Rd.

Like you say, absolutely nothing at all to do with the Cabinet, and I would humbly suggest this has been a simple oversight. I would certainly progress this again, as it should in theory be a quick-win for all parties as capacity isn't the issue. 



Thanks for the information. Is there a publicly accessible source for the RNS FTTP surveys?

It seems strange that the lower numbers weren't captured, as they are are the beginning of the road. Closest the the properties that do have FTTP.


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Re: FTTP Rollout on estate in Newark
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2022, 07:12:18 PM »

Thanks for the information. Is there a publicly accessible source for the RNS FTTP surveys?

There isn't.
The availability checker is as public as their plans go.

All the RNS work around my area (including my own) has covered every property on the development.
There's usually a specific/good reason for being missed out.
Possibly a capacity issue, the local duct work or an issue that's taking those properties above their budget.

Might be worth going through the CEO team to ask why you've been missed. They often give the exact reason for a decision and occasionally amend plans to include the missing properties.
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Re: FTTP Rollout on estate in Newark
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2022, 11:35:00 PM »

Thanks again  :)

How do I make contact with the CEO team?
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Re: FTTP Rollout on estate in Newark
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2022, 02:15:45 PM »

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Re: FTTP Rollout on estate in Newark
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2022, 08:35:17 PM »

Thanks.

I started checking each house on my road the openreach website.

It says fttp is available for our next door neighbor!
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Re: FTTP Rollout on estate in Newark
« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2022, 03:50:53 AM »

Make sure that's not FTTPoD or if it says WBC FTTP that it actually says Available, I made that mistake when checking neighbours.

One area had the fibre laid months ago, says WBC FTTP but doesn't say Available so any order would just be stuck in a pre-order state.
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Re: FTTP Rollout on estate in Newark
« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2022, 08:20:07 PM »

Make sure that's not FTTPoD or if it says WBC FTTP that it actually says Available, I made that mistake when checking neighbours.

One area had the fibre laid months ago, says WBC FTTP but doesn't say Available so any order would just be stuck in a pre-order state.

Thanks.
the open reach website says this..

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Re: FTTP Rollout on estate in Newark
« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2022, 11:04:10 PM »

The Openreach website makes no mention of FTTPoD so don't worry about that.
I think Alex may have assumed you meant another online checker (the BT Wholesale checker).

You have FTTP available. It's as simple as that.
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Re: FTTP Rollout on estate in Newark
« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2022, 07:34:46 AM »

Me?  Get Openreach and BTW mixed up?  ::)

Seems I'm on a roll with that.
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Re: FTTP Rollout on estate in Newark
« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2022, 10:28:25 AM »

The Openreach website makes no mention of FTTPoD so don't worry about that.
I think Alex may have assumed you meant another online checker (the BT Wholesale checker).

You have FTTP available. It's as simple as that.

Thanks for explaining that.

The Openreach checker was for one of my neighbours.
My road has about 40 houses the openreach checker shows FTTP is available for only 2 houses - 17 and 11
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Re: FTTP Rollout on estate in Newark
« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2022, 11:11:19 AM »

Do you know about this checker.
Remember it's WBC FTTP Not FTTPoD.

https://www.broadbandchecker.btwholesale.com/#/ADSL
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