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[Chrysalis]

[This on-going discussion has been split off from the original news item.]

Fair play they continue to be the most attractive ISP to tenants (not the 2-3 year contracts).

Now awaiting news of cityfibre with AAISP.

Across all isp's VDSL prices are now effectively a tax for using old tech.  This hasnt changed on AAISP, e.g. comparing that 115mbps package with 80/20 on VDSL, same upload speed, access speed is assured and lower price.

[Alex Atkin UK]

Across all isp's VDSL prices are now effectively a tax for using old tech.  This hasnt changed on AAISP, e.g. comparing that 115mbps package with 80/20 on VDSL, same upload speed, access speed is assured and lower price.

Doesn't that kinda make sense though?  It costs more to maintain the older technology so its disproportionately expensive compared to fibre.

[Chrysalis]

Doesn't that kinda make sense though?  It costs more to maintain the older technology so its disproportionately expensive compared to fibre.

It does it represents the cost.  I meant more akin to a legacy cost tax rather than a profit tax.

[Weaver]

As Chrysalis says, AA over CityFibre would be a very good thing. Are you listening Andrew, Adrian?

[Reformed]

They've been looking at this for a while. In common with other smaller operators they've been waiting for the national product.

Be interesting to see if they pull the trigger. I can't say I really get the point of A&A over FTTP but obviously mileage will vary.

[Weaver]

The unlimited support with things like config of kit will be worth a lot to some people, such as me, not thee, who know enough to know that we don’t know what we’re doing when moving into more serious networking.

[Chrysalis]

They've been looking at this for a while. In common with other smaller operators they've been waiting for the national product.

Be interesting to see if they pull the trigger. I can't say I really get the point of A&A over FTTP but obviously mileage will vary.

"Hello you are through to Wendy at BT support"
"Hi I noticed my ipv6 prefix changed, I thought IPv6 addressing was enough to avoid this nonsense"
"Sorry can you repeat that"
"Sure ..."
"Ok please go to your home hub, and look for the button with this ... symbol, press it, then wait 5 seconds, and press it again, this should fix it."

After escalation.

"Yes sir, we cannot manage our network in a way to give static allocations, so your prefix will change from time to time, also please dont bother our agents with this, if you can reach google, the service is working to an adequate standard".

 

[GigabitEthernet]

What’s the point? Ridiculous amount of money for limited broadband. Total con.

[Reformed]

I'm not going to belabour the point on this one

[Weaver]

@Gigabitethernet I refer you to a previous post of mine on the many whys. Now if I could only find it… The point is you and I aren’t the same. I don’t care about price and getting the cheapest offering.

[burakkucat]

. . . a previous post of mine on the many whys. Now if I could only find it…

Is this the post? 

[Weaver]

Thank you my friend. Once again the Black Cat triumphs. This is indeed the post:
     https://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,26696.msg447641.html#msg447641

Those are the reasons (for me) that I love AA. You will have different opinions and some or all of those points won’t matter to you because you and I are possibly different creatures.

[Reformed]

I suppose the obvious would be to note that while A&A now offer this service no-one is forced to use them: other options are always available and will suit the vast majority better.

[Weaver]

Exactly. I just don’t understand the whining about AAs prices - AA isn’t the BBC - we aren’t forced to buy AA’s services and they aren’t a tax.

I’ve had two years of hell with the unexplained problems with my DSL lines. AA have always fixed problems patiently and effectively, as far as they can.

[GigabitEthernet]

Wha are AAISP possibly going to offer for FTTP that makes the cost worth it? They won’t be able to provide more tools for troubleshooting, they won’t be able to provide faster response times for repairs.

All this for a limited connection, I just don’t get it I’m afraid.