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OpenWRT configuring as a DSL modem bridge and baby jumbo frames
« on: February 16, 2022, 03:38:59 PM »

Hopefully Alex or someone else can help here.

Trying to configure this as a bridge device, MTU 1508 so 1500 can be used on PPPoE.
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Re: OpenWRT configuring as a DSL modem bridge and baby jumbo frames
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2022, 04:11:29 PM »

I think the 1508 mtu wont be possible without a custom firmware and usb ethernet device, I posted here.

https://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,23744.msg449369.html#msg449369

Probably means I wont be trying this setup but would still appreciate information on the bridge so I can check what I have configured is valid.
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Re: OpenWRT configuring as a DSL modem bridge and baby jumbo frames
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2022, 05:30:43 PM »

Ah yes, I stopped bothering about baby jumbo ages ago as I found:
1) it makes sod-all real world difference in speed, reducing the SNRm however can make a HUGE difference
2) It actually breaks things when load balancing with mobile connections
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Re: OpenWRT configuring as a DSL modem bridge and baby jumbo frames
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2022, 08:35:46 AM »

Alex do you mind either posting your /etc/config/network here or a screenshot of the dsl interface, as I did try it once, but it just looped trying to sync.

On the openwrt forums and documentation the information is all over the place with different people saying different annex type etc.  Also I have no options for G993, only G992 which is odd.

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It is synced now i had to disable the ATM bridge that was auto generated even in PTM mode.

However it behaves like the fritzbox I tried several years ago, it syncs a "lot" lower than broadcom modems at the same SNRM.

6db target interleaved, broadcom approx 73500, lantiq approx 64000
4db target lantiq approx 77000 (I thought this would be an easy 80mbit, since broadcom is hitting 74ish at 6db)

Error rates dont seem to be working properly on the reporting, 6200ES with no FEC on upstream when freshly synced, no FEC reported when in thousands every minute on broadcom.
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Re: OpenWRT configuring as a DSL modem bridge and baby jumbo frames
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2022, 01:01:28 PM »

Another theory would be its behaving better as its synced lower and a matching chipset. ;)

I'd be tempted to leave it just to see if this has any effect on DLM.
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Re: OpenWRT configuring as a DSL modem bridge and baby jumbo frames
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2022, 02:50:36 PM »

The FEC is still there, I have confirmed via cli commands, the DSL stats UI just seems whacked.

I have left it as is for now anyway as had other stuff to do.

normal status output below.  If these are accurate, the US FEC are much higher. with similar SNRM and same sync speed.  However this still shows the 6200 ES which appeared immediately (impossible).

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ATU-C Vendor ID:                          Infineon 178.6
ATU-C System Vendor ID:                   45,43,49,20,74,65,6C,65
Chipset:                                  Lantiq-VRX200
Firmware Version:                         5.7.9.9.0.6
API Version:                              4.17.18.6
XTSE Capabilities:                        0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x2
Annex:                                    B
Line Mode:                                G.993.2 (VDSL2)
Profile:                                  17a
Line State:                               UP [0x801: showtime_tc_sync]
Forward Error Correction Seconds (FECS):  Near: 1409347 / Far: 8874266
Errored seconds (ES):                     Near: 0 / Far: 6213
Severely Errored Seconds (SES):           Near: 0 / Far: 0
Loss of Signal Seconds (LOSS):            Near: 0 / Far: 184
Unavailable Seconds (UAS):                Near: 35 / Far: 35
Header Error Code Errors (HEC):           Near: 0 / Far: 0
Non Pre-emtive CRC errors (CRC_P):        Near: 0 / Far: 0
Pre-emtive CRC errors (CRCP_P):           Near: 0 / Far: 0
Power Management Mode:                    L0 - Synchronized
Latency [Interleave Delay]:               8.0 ms [Interleave]   0.0 ms [Fast]
Data Rate:                                Down: 77.520 Mb/s / Up: 20.000 Mb/s
Line Attenuation (LATN):                  Down: 13.9 dB / Up: 14.6 dB
Signal Attenuation (SATN):                Down: 14.0 dB / Up: 14.5 dB
Noise Margin (SNR):                       Down: 3.8 dB / Up: 9.2 dB
Aggregate Transmit Power (ACTATP):        Down: 3.7 dB / Up: 3.8 dB
Max. Attainable Data Rate (ATTNDR):       Down: 89.176 Mb/s / Up: 26.679 Mb/s
Line Uptime Seconds:                      18479
Line Uptime:                              5h 7m 59s

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local dsl={}
dsl.atuc_vendor_id="Infineon 178.6"
dsl.atuc_system_vendor_id="45,43,49,20,74,65,6C,65"
dsl.chipset="Lantiq-VRX200"
dsl.firmware_version="5.7.9.9.0.6"
dsl.api_version="4.17.18.6"
dsl.xtse1=0x0
dsl.xtse2=0x0
dsl.xtse3=0x0
dsl.xtse4=0x0
dsl.xtse5=0x0
dsl.xtse6=0x0
dsl.xtse7=0x0
dsl.xtse8=0x2
dsl.xtse_s="0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x2"
dsl.annex_s="B"
dsl.line_mode_s="G.993.2 (VDSL2)"
dsl.profile=6
dsl.profile_s="17a"
dsl.line_state_num=0x801
dsl.line_state_detail="showtime_tc_sync"
dsl.line_state="UP"
dsl.errors_fec_near=1410626
dsl.errors_fec_far=8874266
dsl.errors_es_near=0
dsl.errors_es_far=6213
dsl.errors_ses_near=0
dsl.errors_ses_far=0
dsl.errors_loss_near=0
dsl.errors_loss_far=184
dsl.errors_uas_near=35
dsl.errors_uas_far=35
dsl.errors_hec_near=0
dsl.errors_hec_far=0
dsl.errors_crc_p_near=0
dsl.errors_crc_p_far=0
dsl.errors_crcp_p_near=0
dsl.errors_crcp_p_far=0
dsl.power_mode_num=0
dsl.power_mode_s="L0 - Synchronized"
dsl.latency_down="8000"
dsl.latency_up="0"
dsl.latency_num_down="8.0 ms"
dsl.latency_num_up="0.0 ms"
dsl.latency_s_down="Interleave"
dsl.latency_s_up="Fast"
dsl.data_rate_down=77520000
dsl.data_rate_up=20000000
dsl.data_rate_down_s="77.520 Mb"
dsl.data_rate_up_s="20.000 Mb"
dsl.line_attenuation_down="13.9"
dsl.line_attenuation_up="14.6"
dsl.noise_margin_down="4.1"
dsl.noise_margin_up="9.2"
dsl.signal_attenuation_down="14.0"
dsl.signal_attenuation_up="14.5"
dsl.actatp_down="3.7"
dsl.actatp_up="3.8"
dsl.max_data_rate_down=90431496
dsl.max_data_rate_up=26682566
dsl.max_data_rate_down_s="90.431 Mb"
dsl.max_data_rate_up_s="26.682 Mb"
dsl.line_uptime=18491
dsl.line_uptime_s="5h 8m 11s"
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Re: OpenWRT configuring as a DSL modem bridge and baby jumbo frames
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2022, 10:03:13 PM »

Take the ES with a pinch of salt, it always seems to register those during sync.

I'm currently sitting at:
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Chipset: Lantiq™ XWAY™ VRX268
Firmware Version: 5.7.9.9.0.6
API Version: 4.17.18.6
MEI Version: 1.5.17.6
Power Management Mode: L0 - Synchronized
Line State: UP [0x801: showtime_tc_sync]
Line Uptime: 63d 10h 39m 23s
Resyncs: 5
DSLAM/MSAN VID:
XTSE Capabilities: 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x2
Annex: B
Line Mode: G.993.2 (VDSL2)
Profile: 17a
Trellis: D: ON / U: ON
Bitswap: D: ON / U: ON
G.INP: D: Not Enabled / U: Not Enabled
Virtual Noise Support: D: Not Supported / U: Not Supported
Attain Data Rate: 86.613 Mb/s / 24.826 Mb/s
Actual Data Rate: 79.995 Mb/s / 20.000 Mb/s
Impulse Noise Prot: 0.0 sym / 0.0 sym
Interleave Delay: 0.0 ms / 0.0 ms
NFEC: 255 / 255
RFEC: 16 / 16
LSYMB: 21451 / 5410
Interleave Depth: 1 / 1
Interleave Block: 255 / 255
LPATH: 0 / 0
Line Attenuation: 11.8dB / 13.4dB
Signal Attenuation: 11.8dB / 13.2dB
Noise Margin: 4.1dB / 8.9dB
Transmit power: 13.9dBm / 3.3dBm
FECS: 769993 / 40894
ES: 5586 / 36834
SES: 0 / 17
LOSS: 6 / 0
UAS: 145 / 145
HEC: 0 / 0
CRC_P: 0 / 0
CRCP_P: 0 / 0
15m Code Violations: 0 / 1
15m FEC Errors: 0 / 2
1d Code Violations: 70 / 170
1d FEC Errors: 772 / 791

I'm kinda expecting things could go badly over the next couple of weeks as they are working on the ducting that runs to my DP (though not the actual bit from there to my DP annoyingly) in preparation for FTTP.  ;D
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Re: OpenWRT configuring as a DSL modem bridge and baby jumbo frames
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2022, 11:38:03 PM »

Now I am curious why do you have a different chipset and stat layout to me, we both supposedly on the same modems, assuming plusnet hub's are identical hardware wise to HH5A. O_o.

Lantiq™ XWAY™ VRX268 vs Lantiq-VRX200

It seems you have tinkered, as in the post here, can you please your config details?  Your stat layout is different order, different wording, stats not visible on mine etc.

https://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php?topic=25544.60

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That firmware version makes no sense, its using stock OpenWRT which is xcpe_581816_580B11.bin which was reported correctly on the Plusnet Hub before I replaced the firmware and was on Zen too AFAIK until the latest OpenWRT update.
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Re: OpenWRT configuring as a DSL modem bridge and baby jumbo frames
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2022, 12:52:37 AM »

I meant to mention but got sidetracked.  I copied dsl_control and lantiq_dsl.sh from the ECI OpenWRT firmware into /root (so updating OpenWRT wont break anything).  Added that folder to the "keep files after upgrade" section on OpenWRT.

Then I created a file called /www/cgi-bin/dsl that contains (also added to keep files list):
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#!/bin/sh
echo "Content-Type: text/plain"
echo ""
/root/dsl_control status

I then have a PHP script on my NAS that acts as a proxy to download http://192.168.1.240/cgi-bin/dsl to display on a web page.

I also had to disable redirect_https in /etc/config/uhttpd so that would work.
« Last Edit: February 18, 2022, 01:04:16 AM by Alex Atkin UK »
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Re: OpenWRT configuring as a DSL modem bridge and baby jumbo frames
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2022, 12:43:39 PM »

Ok do you mind sharing those scripts then please, as I dont have a the older ECI openwrt firmware.

I have been working on trying to get the dsl stats on collectd, I think I am going to have to do a support request on the OpenWRT forum though as its a lua issue, and I have no knowledge of LUA.

The RRD files are been generated correctly, just I cannot get the Luci stats page to work.

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/usr/lib/lua/luci/statistics/rrdtool.lua:77: attempt to index local 'list' (a nil value)
stack traceback:
/usr/lib/lua/luci/statistics/rrdtool.lua:77: in function '_forcelol'
/usr/lib/lua/luci/statistics/rrdtool.lua:554: in function 'render'
.../luci/controller/luci_statistics/luci_statistics.lua:170: in function <.../luci/controller/luci_statistics/luci_statistics.lua:114>

The command that generates the stats tmp file is this in cron.

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* * * * * /etc/init.d/dsl_control lucistat > /tmp/dslstat.txt
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Re: OpenWRT configuring as a DSL modem bridge and baby jumbo frames
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2022, 04:41:39 AM »

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* * * * * /etc/init.d/dsl_control lucistat > /tmp/dslstat.txt

I just checked and lucistat does not work on that old script on current OpenWRT and the normal version is now called dslstat, so not sure what build you are using.

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/etc/init.d/dsl_control dslstat
{
        "api_version": "4.17.18.6",
        "firmware_version": "5.7.9.9.0.6",
        "chipset": "Lantiq-VRX200",
        "driver_version": "1.5.17.6",
        "state": "Showtime with TC-Layer sync",
        "state_num": 7,
        "up": true,
        "uptime": 5589727,
        "atu_c": {
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                "vendor": "Infineon 208.134",
                "system_vendor_id": [
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Re: OpenWRT configuring as a DSL modem bridge and baby jumbo frames
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2022, 10:28:35 AM »

19.07 and was previously using 20.x , I downgraded as the openwrt documentation hasnt been updated for the new network structure and I couldnt configure the bridge interface with the outdated documentation.

That script you got from a very old firmware, so why would it be designed only for the script in 20.x?
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Re: OpenWRT configuring as a DSL modem bridge and baby jumbo frames
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2022, 10:46:44 AM »

Yeah I don't understand the switch configuration in LuCI on 21.01 either, fortunately it automagically converts if you configure on the older version first then upgrade.
Ironically I think its easier to understand in the configuration file now than it is in the UI.

/etc/config/network
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config interface 'loopback'
        option proto 'static'
        option ipaddr '127.0.0.1'
        option netmask '255.0.0.0'
        option device 'lo'

config globals 'globals'
        option ula_prefix 'fd76:9236:9ad3::/48'

config dsl 'dsl'
        option xfer_mode 'ptm'
        option line_mode 'vdsl'
        option ds_snr_offset '-35'
        option annex 'b'
        option tone 'a'

config interface 'lan'
        option proto 'static'
        option netmask '255.255.255.0'
        option gateway '192.168.1.254'
        list dns '192.168.1.254'
        option ipaddr '192.168.1.240'
        option stp '1'
        option device 'br-lan'

config device 'lan_dev'
        option name 'eth0.1'
        option macaddr '18:1e:78:23:5a:3e'

config interface 'wan'
        option proto 'none'
        option device 'br-wan'

config device 'wan_dev'
        option macaddr '18:1e:78:23:5a:3f'
        option name 'dsl0'
        option mtu '1508'

config switch
        option name 'switch0'
        option reset '1'
        option enable_vlan '1'

config switch_vlan
        option device 'switch0'
        option vlan '1'
        option vid '1'
        option ports '0 1 2 4 5t 6t'

config switch_vlan
        option device 'switch0'
        option vlan '2'
        option vid '2'
        option ports '5 6t'

config device
        option name 'br-lan'
        option type 'bridge'
        list ports 'eth0.1'
        option igmp_snooping '1'

config device
        option name 'br-wan'
        option type 'bridge'
        list ports 'eth0.2'
        list ports 'dsl0.101'

VLAN1 bridges DSL straight onto the WAN port.
VLAN2 (LAN) is tagged on the WAN as well as untagged to all the LAN ports.  This allows me a single cable solution to bridge it back onto the actual LAN from pfSense.
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Re: OpenWRT configuring as a DSL modem bridge and baby jumbo frames
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2022, 08:53:34 PM »

ok so the main change seems to be the switch to 'list ports' syntax, thanks.
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Re: OpenWRT configuring as a DSL modem bridge and baby jumbo frames
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2022, 10:22:40 PM »

On a lower noise margin target now, still no CRC/ES.  Assuming those metrics are accurate the high far FEC/ES due to the sync stat bug, since uptime the actual far FEC/ES is 4 FEC/0 ES on upstream.

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root@OpenWRT-HH5A:~# /etc/init.d/dsl_control status
ATU-C Vendor ID:                          Infineon 178.6
ATU-C System Vendor ID:                   45,43,49,20,74,65,6C,65
Chipset:                                  Lantiq-VRX200
Firmware Version:                         5.7.9.9.0.6
API Version:                              4.17.18.6
XTSE Capabilities:                        0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x2
Annex:                                    B
Line Mode:                                G.993.2 (VDSL2)
Profile:                                  17a
Line State:                               UP [0x801: showtime_tc_sync]
Forward Error Correction Seconds (FECS):  Near: 99335503 / Far: 8874420
Errored seconds (ES):                     Near: 0 / Far: 6234
Severely Errored Seconds (SES):           Near: 0 / Far: 0
Loss of Signal Seconds (LOSS):            Near: 0 / Far: 190
Unavailable Seconds (UAS):                Near: 63 / Far: 63
Header Error Code Errors (HEC):           Near: 0 / Far: 0
Non Pre-emtive CRC errors (CRC_P):        Near: 0 / Far: 0
Pre-emtive CRC errors (CRCP_P):           Near: 0 / Far: 0
Power Management Mode:                    L0 - Synchronized
Latency [Interleave Delay]:               7.0 ms [Interleave]   0.0 ms [Fast]
Data Rate:                                Down: 79.994 Mb/s / Up: 20.000 Mb/s
Line Attenuation (LATN):                  Down: 13.9 dB / Up: 14.5 dB
Signal Attenuation (SATN):                Down: 14.0 dB / Up: 14.4 dB
Noise Margin (SNR):                       Down: 3.6 dB / Up: 10.4 dB
Aggregate Transmit Power (ACTATP):        Down: 3.5 dB / Up: 3.8 dB
Max. Attainable Data Rate (ATTNDR):       Down: 95.377 Mb/s / Up: 28.170 Mb/s
Line Uptime Seconds:                      7496
Line Uptime:                              2h 4m 56s

I never did figure out the LUA, not sure if I am bothered enough to spend more time on it as I expect to have FTTP later in the year and not even sure if sticking to this modem, Plus if I get 21.x configured, the native exec.js may work out of the box, I have set it up also as a 2nd AP in my home for the living room as my firetv stick struggled.  Interesting that this internal antennae device has a stronger signal than the C7.  (when comparing in opposite rooms).
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