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Author Topic: Bonding advise. AAISP or Sharedband or neither  (Read 17475 times)

meritez

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Re: Bonding advise. AAISP or Sharedband or neither
« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2022, 12:05:06 PM »

bonding will not change the bandwidth on a vpn, you are still limited by the upload speed of the vpn server.

I'll give an example, I have a vpn client that can connect to a vpn server on a 24/1 ADSL connection, the fastest speed my vpn client can download over the vpn is 1, as that is the upload bandwidth of the ADSL connection.

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Re: Bonding advise. AAISP or Sharedband or neither
« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2022, 12:30:19 PM »

Hi,
I did wonder, seemed strange as I had so much spare speed but as it is fine on Virgin & most of her colleges who have really fast FTTC or FTTP do not have a problem I just figured the VPN overhead somehow just coped better if the raw speed was really high.

I don't know much about VPN's, never really used myself but read some have well over 70% loss, even up to 90% but improved when they got better services.

It is a really, really big company & whilst I guess they can be lazy & often the worst I would think v.well resourced.

I always come back to, never, ever had a problem at boyfriends but frequently had to get in the car at my house & go there & carried on working fine.

Is not a deal breaker anyway, I have the two lines & going to be years to FTTP so unless cost's a fortune prefer to just get it sorted now.

So disappointed as a month ago, hoards of BT engineers swarmed down our lane. Great I thought FTTP. Turns out Point To Point for a resident, up & past my house & business. I know different tech but why they don't either offer or pull more cables through as they go.
I guess if the cabinet is not ready but when aiming to roll out FTTP to as many as possible, why not do it then!

I know a lot still on ADSL but we were v.slow to get FTTC and don't think a handful of houses and couple of business are going to be anytime, soon/ever.


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Weaver

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Re: Bonding advise. AAISP or Sharedband or neither
« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2022, 01:15:56 PM »

My bonded setup multiplies the speed of single flows upstream or downstream, single transfers. So should double the speed of your VPN. My upstream speeds are very ill-matched for some reason so things are complicated; out-of-order packet delivery could be a danger in some situations and receiving system might whine about that or go somewhat slower than double. If your lines are the same as one another then things are quite simple.
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Re: Bonding advise. AAISP or Sharedband or neither
« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2022, 02:19:26 PM »

Have you discounted load balancing
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Re: Bonding advise. AAISP or Sharedband or neither
« Reply #19 on: February 07, 2022, 05:38:39 PM »

Does "load balancing" mean assigning different flows to various pipes, requiring multiple flows to be present ?
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Re: Bonding advise. AAISP or Sharedband or neither
« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2022, 05:42:38 PM »

« Last Edit: February 07, 2022, 05:46:02 PM by g3uiss »
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Re: Bonding advise. AAISP or Sharedband or neither
« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2022, 06:08:20 PM »

Hi,

I was preferring the idea of proper bonding.

Many years ago I did load balancing on adsl, it worked pretty well & had its uses but did not really double up on the speed a lot of the time, it also would complain/error sometimes (& I really cannot remember when or where) but www's knew it was from two different IP's & security on www's would have issue but really don't go on my v.old memories if thinking of trying.

Speed checkers seem to be able to report the full combined speeds but often downloading or streaming just used one or the other that was allocated  from the router.
Might be different now & better routers etc.

I would be interested in the experience of the previous poster, can't see the name whilst replying.
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Re: Bonding advise. AAISP or Sharedband or neither
« Reply #22 on: February 07, 2022, 06:31:40 PM »

« Last Edit: February 07, 2022, 06:33:56 PM by Weaver »
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Re: Bonding advise. AAISP or Sharedband or neither
« Reply #23 on: February 07, 2022, 06:31:47 PM »

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Re: Bonding advise. AAISP or Sharedband or neither
« Reply #24 on: February 07, 2022, 06:44:51 PM »

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Re: Bonding advise. AAISP or Sharedband or neither
« Reply #25 on: February 08, 2022, 04:58:03 AM »

I'd have to agree with full bonding here, as it sounds like the problem is mostly the lack of upload bandwidth.
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Re: Bonding advise. AAISP or Sharedband or neither
« Reply #26 on: February 08, 2022, 06:26:13 PM »

I imagine could be a multitude of reasons but her VPN (cisco anyconnect) slows to a crawl on my internet.
I don't see why Anyconnect would need appreciably more bandwidth.  There's a bit of overhead of course with the IPsec and UDP encapsulation but that wouldn't be a big percentage. Have you looked at round trip times from home to her VPN head end, via each of your two ISPs?  I'm assuming that her VPN works OK from other Internet connections, and that she is a normal end-user type user and therefore downloading more than she uploads.
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Re: Bonding advise. AAISP or Sharedband or neither
« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2022, 01:56:24 PM »

I also have 2 ADSL connections at home which I load balance and it works great, especially if you have multiple users, but its also true it doesn't function exactly like a single connection for single stream applications - for this you are right you need a bonded connection. I haven't had any issues with multiple IP's myself. 

Personally I decided not to go down this route as it was much more expensive, it sounds like you have a different usage case to me.

I am waiting for a (realistically priced) FTTP option to decommission the second line, unfortunately I live in the boonies.
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Re: Bonding advise. AAISP or Sharedband or neither
« Reply #28 on: February 14, 2022, 11:15:48 AM »

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Re: Bonding advise. AAISP or Sharedband or neither
« Reply #29 on: February 14, 2022, 12:54:00 PM »

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