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[vic0239]

[Weaver]

What Vic said. My friend next door used to listen to Alanis Morissette in 1990s. She was 12 years old. The girl next door, that is.

[Alex Atkin UK]

less serious, as in "vaccines only lower the effect that SARS-Cov-2 has on you" = fewer hospital beds used = no lockdown, but still lockdown numbers getting sick with covid 294,000 per last week (roughly J0hn, that's 42,000 yesterday if yer have to get everything perfect)... because since JULY 19 every 'average joe' stopped wearing masks! ...when simply wearing a mask could have curved it almost out by now with herd immunity ...but no, the average person didn't even have the sense, or the knowledge and stopped wearing masks, even on busses /  metros / shops that are asking PLEASE CONTINUE TO WEAR A MASK and a good 70-80% hasn't been (so 20-30% sensible people)...so those who didn't practice mask-wearing since July 19th are partly to blame for the longer continuation of it, the larger numbers of sick that are ever growing!!!

so I'm not surprised theirs a new strain, there will be many more to come, because of what I've just said.

- simple as that! its ignorance in my book!

Partly government sponsored, they were so desperate to open everything back up.

I was absolutely flabbergasted by an e-mail I received from the council recently, going on about how great it is that there has been a three times increase in visitors to the city centre, seemingly completely oblivious that none of those people are social distancing or wearing masks.

The retail recovery is going to be pretty short lived if everyone is sick.

[j0hn]

John, that's what it said on BBC on TV too, so are they tin foil hatters too are they? hehe

If you can find me the words more deadly in that BBC article I'll send a donation to a charity of your choice.

Politician eh? Mr Know-it-all (never wrong!)

watch and you will see... it's Sky News and has all the Scientists and Trump denying his part after Obama stopped the funding & him restarting it - funds funnelled through a British scientist - loads more.

[drops mic]

The tin foil hat reference was to the YouTube link.
We're in a world wide pandemic.

I have no interest in reading about bill gates micro chipping me, 5g spreading covid, or how all the world's major powers were involved in some secret plot to spread covid.

[jelv]

There is one thing about the emergence of the Omicron variant that has really surprised me - how long it is since Delta emerged before another variant of concern emerged!

[snadge]

there you go, the government have just texted everyone in the UK which states and I quote "the W.H.O has designated the coronavirus variant B.1.1.529 a variant of concern and named it OMICRON. W.H.O. officials based this decision on evidence that the Omicron variant has multiple mutations that could affect how easily it spreads and the severity of illness it causes.
 

[g3uiss]

Could effect are the key words here

[j0hn]

there you go, the government have just texted everyone in the UK which states and I quote "the W.H.O has designated the coronavirus variant B.1.1.529 a variant of concern and named it OMICRON. W.H.O. officials based this decision on evidence that the Omicron variant has multiple mutations that could affect how easily it spreads and the severity of illness it causes.
 

Isn't that what I said? 

Neither link you supplied says anything like that.
It's simply been labelled as a variant of concern.

Words are important.

The government have not text me or the whole of the UK. They are not responsible for healthcare outside of England.

[j0hn]

I apologise if I was a bit blunt with my original reply to the OP. It's a sensitive topic that I usually avoid engaging in online for obvious reasons.
I just felt the article was misinterpreted by using the words more deadly. They don't know enough about the new strain yet to make that claim.
The W.H.O, scientists, the government etc are careful in the words they use so as not to cause alarm.

It also seems that me thinking that "covid vaccines are a secret plot by Bill Gates to microchip the human race" is a conspiracy theory may also have offended another member.

The definition of conspiracy theory is "a belief that some covert but influential organization is responsible for an unexplained event."
I believe that definition matches the above.

I made no comment on the people who believe in said conspiracy theories.

I'll pass on any future covid related threads.

[Black Sheep]

I apologise if I was a bit blunt with my original reply to the OP. It's a sensitive topic that I usually avoid engaging in online for obvious reasons.
I just felt the article was misinterpreted by using the words more deadly. They don't know enough about the new strain yet to make that claim.
The W.H.O, scientists, the government etc are careful in the words they use so as not to cause alarm.

It also seems that me thinking that "covid vaccines are a secret plot by Bill Gates to microchip the human race" is a conspiracy theory may also have offended another member.

The definition of conspiracy theory is "a belief that some covert but influential organization is responsible for an unexplained event."
I believe that definition matches the above.

I made no comment on the people who believe in said conspiracy theories.

I'll pass on any future covid related threads.

Nut jobs.

[jelv]

Nut jobs.

+1

[meritez]

Partly government sponsored, they were so desperate to open everything back up.

I was absolutely flabbergasted by an e-mail I received from the council recently, going on about how great it is that there has been a three times increase in visitors to the city centre, seemingly completely oblivious that none of those people are social distancing or wearing masks.

The retail recovery is going to be pretty short lived if everyone is sick.

Eat out to Help out was such a great idea though...

[Reformed]

Unfortunate that it was the virus eating out and being helped out.

Omicron isn't going to cause problems until February at the earliest. It does not seem as infectious as Delta in the naive, however it does have strong immune escape. Seems like it'll breeze through convalescent patients and those not boosted but 3 jabs or convalescent + 2 should be quite protective.

[Alex Atkin UK]

[gt94sss2]

So how exactly are they going to "keep observing" if people aren't getting tested because it costs them money?

Through things like https://www.ons.gov.uk/surveys/informationforhouseholdsandindividuals/householdandindividualsurveys/covid19infectionsurvey which give an idea of how widespread infections are.