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Author Topic: Upgrade to 80/20  (Read 2247 times)

gentoo

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Upgrade to 80/20
« on: October 31, 2021, 05:00:20 PM »

Hi all I would be extremely grateful if someone could advise regarding a couple of questions I have.
My line is currently on fastpath 40/10 Plusnet plan with G.INP enabled. I am considering upgrading to a 80/20 but I am unsure if G.INP would be removed and interleaving applied if I were to go ahead with the upgrade? Thank you….
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Re: Upgrade to 80/20
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2021, 06:04:52 PM »

Pretty sure it would as the DLM would go through the learning process again.

Assuming its a Huawei line, I'd expect it to put it back on again once its finished.
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Re: Upgrade to 80/20
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2021, 06:30:54 PM »

Thanks Alex, tbh that was my worry. My cabinet is actually ECI G.INP was only activated as part of a Plusnet trial….so would I be correct in thinking that fastpath could be re-applied but G.INP would be gone for good.
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Re: Upgrade to 80/20
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2021, 08:27:37 PM »

G.INP on an ECI cab is a bit of a grey area you could well lose it if you upgrade. What speed estimate are you getting on the BT wholesale checker? If it is not a large speed increase it may not be worth it.
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Re: Upgrade to 80/20
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2021, 09:51:15 PM »

Hi all I would be extremely grateful if someone could advise regarding a couple of questions I have.
My line is currently on fastpath 40/10 Plusnet plan with G.INP enabled. I am considering upgrading to a 80/20 but I am unsure if G.INP would be removed and interleaving applied if I were to go ahead with the upgrade? Thank you….

Is your line capable of 80/20?
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Re: Upgrade to 80/20
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2021, 08:33:43 AM »

@RealAleMadrid these are the figures shown by BT wholesale checker



@meritez Not really sure mate? these are the stats taken from my router...



My query is, would a 80/20 speed increase be worth loosing G.imp and fastpath? We watch television via IPTV so latency can be a real issue but as more providers are now offering 4k quality I'm also wondering if my existing line speed could become a problem.  My current speed tests show around 23mbps down, 8mbps up, 24ms ping when connected to a VPN server.
Any advice would be appreciated…Thanks
« Last Edit: November 01, 2021, 09:10:10 AM by gentoo »
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Re: Upgrade to 80/20
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2021, 09:15:12 AM »

Your line stats show that an upgrade to 80/20 should give you a decent speed increase as you are currently connected at the full 40/10 with SNR margins of 13.3/10.2. As said earlier it would most likely trigger a DLM reset and that could bin the G.INP side of things from your ECI line. It would be interesting to see if G.INP remains after a reset but only you can decide if you want to chance it.
I'm a bit puzzled that your current speed only tests out at 23/8 as the downstream should be achieving about 36Mbps on a 40Mbps sync. What speedtest are you using and is it being performed on a wired or wireless connection?
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Re: Upgrade to 80/20
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2021, 03:05:57 PM »

@tubaman thanks for your reply. When I use UK servers my speed tests usually show around 38mbps, 9mbps, 14ms ping, the results I posted earlier were from a VPN European server. As you suggested the upgrade would likely trigger a line reset my real concern is latency when streaming IPTV, if fastpath were not restored to the line I could see that being a problem...
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Re: Upgrade to 80/20
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2021, 04:18:14 PM »

I doubt with those speeds interleaving will cause you any issues even in the short term. The gain in speed will fully cover that small loss.
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Re: Upgrade to 80/20
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2021, 09:37:53 PM »

G.INP usually remains active now after a DLM reset or an ISP switch.
G.INP is the default on the downstream on Huawei cabinets though so that seems like a sensible change to the DLM.

However a Plusnet line that was part of the ECI G.INP trial did not have G.INP return after an engineer did a DLM reset whilst fixing a fault.

It would be my guess that any ECI line with G.INP is likely to lose it permanently if the line is reset.
Whether changing package would have the same result is anyone's guess though.
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Re: Upgrade to 80/20
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2021, 07:46:50 AM »

I doubt with those speeds interleaving will cause you any issues even in the short term. The gain in speed will fully cover that small loss.

I agree, as if it did I would expect to see lots of complaints about TV streaming from people connected to ECI lines and I'm not aware of that being the case.
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